i've probably ruined the fun for everyone with my various avatar pictures.

I've gotten fatter and lost the upper portion to one of my front teeth. (Have never had a cavity. They were too big for my mouth and finally one cracked and for the longest time was held on by a little back ridge.) So now I have an absent tooth but not down to the root and I'm fat. Oh well.

I tend to see much more of what, to me, is "inside" a person than what is "outside." So, I do not pay much attention to a person's apparent outer appearance (yes, that is intentionally redundant), because it never informs me of much that is useful except to call my attention to useful physical accommodations, which, if not present and available for use, tend to create functional disabilities.

When I look, as best I am so able, at what appears to me to be inside a person, there is one "thing" which I invariably and inescapably have found, so for, without exception or hint thereof.

What is that? I observe that, in terms of procedural learning, people are perfectly, totally, and inescapably utterly truthful.

Oh? Where did I get that absurd notion?

What if it is not absurd? What if truthfulness is all that people are capable of being, and telling truth is all that people are capable of doing?

As a reference, a book by University of Massachusetts - Amherst psychology professor, Robert Feldman, "The Liar in Your Life," Twelve - The Hachette Group, 2005; I have written permission to use the following excerpts in my research work and publication:

From page 253:

There's a dirty secret I've been trying to avoid emphasizing in this book, but its about time we face it. All of us are liars. Yes, that means you. And yes, it means me, too.

However, on page 73:

Parents of children with autism often report that their children are simply incapable of lying. While at first glance un-relenting honesty might be seen as a virtue, in fact it is at the heart of the social difficulties children with autism experience.

Also, on page 73:

Consider the irony of the situation. Honesty in children with autism is viewed as a manifestation of their disorder. Subsequently, autistic children who were originally unfailingly honest but have begun to show signs of lying effectively are considered to be showing improvement in their condition."

I find that I am autistic, with a form of autism the central feature of which is a profound form of language delay; therefore, in a community of autistic people and people with autism, divided into Kanner-type and Asperger-type, I am of the Kanner variety.

My life history informs me, and does so emphatically, that I never even began to show signs of lying effectively. That has made my life quite interesting at times.

I have often told something as truthfully as my ability with words has allowed, only to be informed (in error) that I was lying, and, upon re-phrasing what I had told, in the vain hope of improved accuracy of communication, have been judged as being of incorrigible form of liar for denying that I was lying when I was not lying, therefore having been judged to have been lying.

There is no escape from that form of vicious cycle addictive judgmentalism that I have yet found, except to absolutely and totally forgive those who have so judged me and/or my life.

Sorry, I did study philosophy in college; and my dad was a college philosophy major, who, during my childhood, tutored me extensively and intensively in the ways of philosophy.

From my formal and informal study of philosophy, I find a few philosophical principles which have never been able to elude. Among them:

There is only truth. If a logical proposition is false, it is true that it is false; If a logical proposition is true, it is not false that it is true; therefore, all that is false is a proper subset of all that is true, and thus, in one way or another nothing actually exists except what is true.

Hence, people who have learned to show signs of lying effectively are thereby telling the greater truth that their life circumstances have led them to truthfully tell that their life circumstances led them to showing signs of lying effectively.

Consider, as for what people "look like" on the inside, to me, I "see" people who respond (i.e. adapt) to life events in full accord with their actual response abilities in the actual context of their actual life events.

I find the notion of responsibilities to be a perverse biological fallacy; a form of untruth about truth about some aspects of untruth.

To such extent as truth is beauty and beauty is truth, I see only beautiful people, beautiful inside as outside. And I find no fault with existence; none whatsoever.

I strive to be as truthful as I can where it matters. Lies in themselves are not wrong or bad. What one chooses to lie about, and why, is what decides if we're good or bad.

I've met several people from the Boards and the chat including IEunuch, Jesus, Ken_SD and many others. I want to meet River if only because I've never seen a overweight bald guy - LOL

I have my own fleeting mental pictures of everyone on these boards. Sometimes you use what appears to be a picture of yourself as an avatar, and that becomes your "face". More than that though, I "hear" your voices inside my mind, clearer than I imagine your faces.

Those voices are kind, some are commanding. Paolo, has the voice of James Earl Jones, and Slammr has the voice of Brad Dourif, I'm sure their avatars have something to do with that. Some of you I ascribe a female voice to, even if you aren't female.

It is an odd sort of auditory hallucination on my part. Even though I know what janekane's voice sounds like, when I read his posts I hear the voice of David Attenborough. I don't know why. Maybe his posts sound more comforting with that British accent?

I really need to get to the next MoM event so I can meet you all in real life. Until then though, my imagined voices for you give me a great deal of comfort and support.

Thanks.

Cainanite (imported) wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2011 3:50 pm I have my own fleeting mental pictures of everyone on these boards. Sometimes you use what appears to be a picture of yourself as an avatar, and that becomes your "face". More than that though, I "hear" your voices inside my mind, clearer than I imagine your faces.

Those voices are kind, some are commanding. Paolo, has the voice of James Earl Jones, and Slammr has the voice of Brad Dourif, I'm sure their avatars have something to do with that. Some of you I ascribe a female voice to, even if you aren't female.

It is an odd sort of auditory hallucination on my part. Even though I know what janekane's voice sounds like, when I read his posts I hear the voice of David Attenborough. I don't know why. Maybe his posts sound more comforting with that British accent?

I really need to get to the next MoM event so I can meet you all in real life. Until then though, my imagined voices for you give me a great deal of comfort and support.

Thanks.

Interesting. What's my voice like?

And how would the voices of those who have avatars that are not photos?

What, you mean that Jesus' avatar isn't an accurate picture of him? I'm crushed.

Transward

punkypink (imported) wrote: Fri Dec 02, 2011 3:57 pm Interesting. What's my voice like?

An oriental Bette Midler, maybe...