The Lurker (imported) wrote: Sun Aug 14, 2011 2:34 am To be graphic: Without a reroute, If you pee standing up, urine will spray ALL OVER, including your clothing, the wall, the floor, and anything within 3 feet of your hole. If you pee sitting down, you will have no way to point the urine flow down, into the bowl, so it will spray all over the seat, the flo

mynhii85 (imported) wrote: Mon Aug 29, 2011 7:25 pm or and your pants that are around your ankles.

Let's assume that the penis is kept where it is; only the scrotum skin is used to make t

he vagina. Then rerouting urethra is not necessary, is it?

Lurker even with a natural penis when you pee standing the urine frequently sprays ALL OVER including on your clothes, the floor and the wall. In addition, you frequently get the last spurt in your pants when tucking it back in. When sitting, it is frequently difficult to point that thing downward into the toilet bowl.

Mynhii85, given the disadvantages noted above, why would you even consider not getting a reroute if you had a vagina but retained your penis? Wouldn't it be more pleasant and convenient to just be able to sit and not have to worry about directing the urine stream or about splashing on your pants or getting the last spurt in your pants? Your penis would then be like a large clitoris that could still be used for penetrative sex.

There might even be some additional advantages to having a reroute without any other modifications. It would result in failsafe birth control; requiring collection and artificial insertion of the sperm into the vagina when pregnancy is desired. If the reroute included closing of the opening in the tip of the penis the transmission of sexually transmitted diseases would be prevented.

Other than for penetrative sex and and ease of impregnation, there is no real advantage to having a penis.

Mac (imported) wrote: Tue Aug 30, 2011 9:36 am Lurker even with a natural penis when you pee standing the urine frequently sprays ALL OVER including on your clothes, the floor and the wall. In addition, you frequently get the last spurt in your pants when tucking it back in. When sitting, it is frequently difficult to point that thing downward into the toilet bowl.

Mynhii85, given the disadvantages noted above, why would you even consider not getting a reroute if you had a vagina but retained your penis? Wouldn't it be more pleasant and convenient to just be able to sit and not have to worry about directing the urine stream or about splashing on your pants or getting the last spurt in your pants? Your penis would then be like a large clitoris that could still be used for penetrative sex.

There might even be some additional advantages to having a reroute without any other modifications. It would result in failsafe birth control; requiring collection and artificial insertion of the sperm into the vagina when pregnancy is desired. If the reroute included closing of the opening in the tip of the penis the transmission of sexually transmitted diseases would be prevented.

Other than for penetrative sex and and ease of impregnation, there is no real advantage to having a penis.

Hello Mac

Thank you ver much for your explanation. You seem very knowledgable.

I think you also notice that I post in Vaginoplasty only thread. Then you perhaps know what I was talking about. Now I know my true identity, so my explanation may not be needed.

I do enjoy urinating while sitting, but that only happens when I am at home or my uncles' and aunts' houses. My toilet and theirs are clean, and I don't want to make a mess anyway. However, public restroom is a different story.

Besides, I don't want to be a woman, so I don't need a very female-lookalike vagina. I simply want to get rid of my testis and make an orifice (with good depth I hope) at where my scrotum is. If possible, I want that area to be smooth as well; I don't need labia majora.

Now fighting the Standard of Care to get approval is something I will have to do. But a more important question is is this anatomically possible? I hope with your knowledge you can help me answer this.

I wonder if female-to-male people can have Metoidioplasty to realease the clitoris (without closing the vaginal opening), a cisgender male can have a vaginal orifice along with his penis, right? Off course, I am willing to lose my erection (in fact I am not fond of it anyway) for the rest of my life if my penis has to be made short. Still I don't want to mess with my urethra.