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Re: Rights of LGBT Students
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 5:57 pm
by Danya (imported)
I rather naively thought the Twin Cities area would be a fairly safe haven for LGBT students, although I realize many (most?) schools all over have out of control students. And teachers/administrators who refuse to intervene. I agree with Tugon that addressing the general issue of bullying would help.
I was severely bullied in high school because I was perceived as being a fag. Back then, I had no clue what this meant. That was in the 1960's. No one in authority said a word. It's very sad that little seems to have changed over the years. What a tragedy it is to lose so many young people to suicide.
All LGBT individuals, others who are viewed as different in any way or not part of the right clique or what have you, deserve a safe learning space at all times. Students who are bullied often feel they have nowhere to turn for help. I certainly did not.
Punky Pink, I'm very sorry to learn you are still experiencing such a difficult environment for your studies and life.
Re: Rights of LGBT Students
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 6:46 pm
by Mac (imported)
punkypink (imported) wrote: Tue May 31, 2011 5:51 am
It's a bit hard to do anything about LGBT bullying when the teachers in the institutions aren't LGBT and don't really know sh*t about it.
Some of you may have been aware of my year long ordeal.
The equality officer in my university's department was way over her head when it came to the issue of passive discrimination against trans people.
She effectively said a line to me that implied I do not have the same rights to socialisation and privacy as a cisgendered person. Whether she realised what she was saying or not, is perhaps debatable. But even if it was unintended in the way it came out, it just goes to show how over their heads institutional staff are when it comes to issues that are very much on the forefront of social evolution.
Hell I bet if I did a survey here on passive discrimination, I would get a LOT of people who would disagree out of sheer ignorance. Many of EA's members have already demonstrated in the past that they're simply not as progressive as they'd like to think, if people on EA can still be lacking in such key areas, what hope for the regular straight public?
My problem has still not been resolved and has severely impacted my studies (long story short, I may have to repeat the year, IF i can afford it, or drop out), even now the only way I can deal with passive discrimination is to suppress my own emotions at being subjected to it.
Punky you are a beautiful woman and I can't understand why anybody would descriminate against you. Please see my PM to you.
Re: Rights of LGBT Students
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 9:55 pm
by jab (imported)
Yeah, I had the family doctor tell me to kill myself, when I was 12.
A real charmer, that one was.
Re: Rights of LGBT Students
Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 3:05 am
by punkypink (imported)
Mac (imported) wrote: Wed Jun 08, 2011 6:46 pm
Punky you are a beautiful woman and I can't understand why anybody would descriminate against you. Please see my PM to you.
I'll happily answer it here.
Do any of you know what passive discrimination is?
It is when someone says "solely on the basis of the physical, you will not be considered for anything more than platonic, not receive the same chances as the next (straight,bi,gay) person". In my case, it is when lesbians say I will not get the same chances that other lesbians get solely based on physical criterias.
That is what I get put thru. Why would someone discriminate against me? That's why.
And, what if I didn't look the way I did? Mac, would that mean discrimination against me would be understandable? I don't think my looks should factor into it or not. I find discrimination against a trans woman who does not pass to be as distasteful and horrible as discrimination against me.
Will such discrimination be wiped out in my life time? No. Will I get to have the same chances socially as the next average lesbian? No. Do I have a lot going for me? No. To look forward to? No.
Re: Rights of LGBT Students
Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 6:01 am
by Mac (imported)
punkypink (imported) wrote: Thu Jun 09, 2011 3:05 am
I'll happily answer it here.
Do any of you know what passive discrimination is?
It is when someone says "solely on the basis of the physical, you will not be considered for anything more than platonic, not receive the same chances as the next (straight,bi,gay) person". In my case, it is when lesbians say I will not get the same chances that other lesbians get solely based on physical criterias.
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In what ways have you been denied opportunities? How were you singled out? On what basis did they make those determinations?
Re: Rights of LGBT Students
Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 6:52 am
by punkypink (imported)
Mac (imported) wrote: Thu Jun 09, 2011 6:01 am
In what ways have you been denied opportunities? How were you singled out? On what basis did they make those determinations?
"Emily is not considered for anything beyond platonic relations solely for what is between her legs."
Really, you should just go ask lesbians. They like to defend it as their "preference" as "lesbians". I wish there were more real lesbians, and less cunt fetishists masqurading as lesbians.
Re: Rights of LGBT Students
Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 10:31 am
by punkypink (imported)
An update on my university.
They did not grant me an extension beyond the same deadline that everyone else gets. This is regardless of the circumstances that happened at university, the circumstances I face outside university, or that fact that the school counsellor has done her bit to certify i suffer from "depressive anxiety".
The wanted at least 3 credits worth of work, we do 4 credits worth during the entire year. I had 6 half credit modules and 1 full credit module all of which I had not attended any of the classes, learnt anything or done any work for.
In five and a half days, I read, learnt, and completed 5 modules worth of work, to a standard that is at least passable. That is 8 essays, 14,000 words, 30 pages, an entire year's worth of work, not to mention several archaeological papers and journals i had to read as some essays were critical commentaries on those papers.
They did not bulge much in the end, and I had to pull off a superhuman feat to dance to their tune. Lets see if they care enough about the rights of LGBT students to let me pass, given how they've trampled all over upholding the principle of my rights to privacy.
Re: Rights of LGBT Students
Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 10:59 am
by Mac (imported)
punkypink (imported) wrote: Tue May 31, 2011 5:51 am
It's a bit hard to do anything about LGBT bullying when the teachers in the institutions aren't LGBT and don't really know sh*t about it.
Some of you may have been aware of my year long ordeal.
The equality officer in my university's department was way over her head when it came to the issue of passive discrimination against trans people.
She effectively said a line to me that implied I do not have the same rights to socialisation and privacy as a cisgendered person. ....................
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I am still confused as to the specific ways in which your rights have been denied.
Re: Rights of LGBT Students
Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 11:13 am
by punkypink (imported)
Mac (imported) wrote: Sat Jun 18, 2011 10:59 am
I am still confused as to the specific ways in which your rights have been denied.
Rights to privacy? Right to recourse when other rights are breached? Right to be not discriminated against for my body?
I don't think you get it, so nevermind.
Re: Rights of LGBT Students
Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 11:35 am
by Mac (imported)
punkypink (imported) wrote: Sat Jun 18, 2011 11:13 am
Rights to privacy? Right to recourse when other rights are breached? Right to be not discriminated against for my body?
I don't think you get it, so nevermind.
I was asking for specific ways in which you were discriminated against. What rights have been denied to you because of having the wrong genitals? How were you denied your rights of socialization and privacy?