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Re: Email Hijacked
Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 12:05 am
by colin (imported)
Riverwind (imported) wrote: Fri Apr 01, 2011 5:40 pm
A-1 is a dirty old man
Dave is a funny guy as well.
I think changing the password did the job. thanks all
River
I am afraid that I have bad new for you! Depending upon their skill, they do not need your password. That is only required to access your email account. They send the email from one of their own accounts using your id as a pseudonym.
They used to use computer generated ids, but spam filters have become quite good at spotting those. So, they use valid ones instead. Even if you were to change the name you use it would not stop emails appearing under the hijacked one.
Typically, when they hijack an email id they use it to send out hundreds of spam. After a short while they will move to another name. However, yours will remain in their database and will be used periodically. You will probably not be aware of this unless friends get one or you get a message from a 'postmaster' telling you that your email was to an invalid address. If you check the 'IP' address on the mail sent it will not be one you are using, but it is probably not genuine either.
All you can do now is to grin and bear it.
Re: Email Hijacked
Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 12:48 am
by moi621 (imported)
colin (imported) wrote: Sat Apr 02, 2011 12:05 am
I am afraid that I have bad new for you! Depending upon their skill, they do not need your password. That is only required to access your email account. They send the email from one of their own accounts using your id as a pseudonym.
They used to use computer generated ids, but spam filters have become quite good at spotting those. So, they use valid ones instead. Even if you were to change the name you use it would not stop emails appearing under the hijacked one.
Typically, when they hijack an email id they use it to send out hundreds of spam. After a short while they will move to another name. However, yours will remain in their database and will be used periodically. You will probably not be aware of this unless friends get one or you get a message from a 'postmaster' telling you that your email was to an invalid address. If you check the 'IP' address on the mail sent it will not be one you are using, but it is probably not genuine either.
All you can do now is to grin and bear it.
That is the experience at Yahoo Groups.
The hacker there has continued on one person's ID although they changed their password but, now has moved onto another senior member's ID.
Subject line is the usual give away. I guess it is a way to get through SPAM guards.
If I marked such e-mail as SPAM, would that block the real sender ID too or the fake sender's ISP address?
Moi
All for fun or does anyone ever really make a dime off such efforts?
Re: Email Hijacked
Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 6:03 am
by Riverwind (imported)
Well its kinda stupid to send adds for Viagra to eunuchs and transgendered.
River
Re: Email Hijacked
Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 7:14 am
by Dave (imported)
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moi621 (imported) wrote: Sat Apr 02, 2011 12:48 am
If I marked such e-mail as SPAM, would that block the real sender ID too or the fake sender's ISP address?
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A trick is to send the spam email to your email with your email as the return. Then if you just declare it spam, your spam filter blocks your name. Then you have to call the email administrator to get it fixed.
Re: Email Hijacked
Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 4:46 pm
by moi621 (imported)
Dave (imported) wrote: Sat Apr 02, 2011 7:14 am
A trick is to send the spam email to your email with your email as the return. Then if you just declare it spam, your spam filter blocks your name. Then you have to call the email administrator to get it fixed.
Thanks Dave, but I don't want to mess around with calling the wrong item SPAM.
Is SPAM ID'ed by the ISP or sender's name?
Moi
Re: Email Hijacked
Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 7:38 pm
by Dave (imported)
moi621 (imported) wrote: Sat Apr 02, 2011 4:46 pm
Thanks Dave, but I don't want to mess around with calling the wrong item SPAM.
Is SPAM ID'ed by the ISP or sender's name?
Moi
It depends on the program settings. You're going to have to ask an administrator.
Re: Email Hijacked
Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 9:52 pm
by A-1 (imported)
Dave (imported) wrote: Fri Apr 01, 2011 4:29 pm
Then that Last Will and Testament you sent me leaving me all your worldly fortune really isn't valid?
Dave, Do you REALLY want my wife, 4 moved out children, 8 grandchildren, our 3 cats, 5 dogs and a volunteer Raccoon that inhabits our garage and fights the POSSUM for the cat food???
My wife is not so bad, though. I always thought it was worth putting up with the rest of them just to be with her... can't take her with me, though. I do not live in Hindu India...

Re: Email Hijacked
Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 10:10 pm
by Dave (imported)
The cats are a deal breaker.
I can take another man's wife, dog etc... but never cats.
The only good cat is a stuffed, dead cat.
with a pencil sharpener up its butt.
Re: Email Hijacked
Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 11:35 pm
by MacTheWolf (imported)
Riverwind (imported) wrote: Sat Apr 02, 2011 6:03 am
Well its kinda stupid to send adds for Viagra to eunuchs and transgendered.
River
Or to senile old buzzards like me.
Re: Email Hijacked
Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2011 11:48 pm
by colin (imported)
moi621 (imported) wrote: Sat Apr 02, 2011 12:48 am
If I marked such e-mail as SPAM, would that block the real sender ID too or the fake sender's ISP address?
Moi
As Dave already said, it depends upon your email service. With mine, BTYahoo, I cannot send an email to myself but I do get spam email apparently from myself offering Viagra. BTYahoo use the IP address rather than the email name so having marked that one as spam means that it blocks a whole slew of spam using different sender's names.