Milkman (imported) wrote: Sat Mar 26, 2011 12:37 pm Why not try chemical castration first? The only reason NOT to do this is if you have sexualized the castration procedure, which is something that I realize I have done. If your goal is to live without sexual desire, this is the rational first step.

But where can I get a prescription for the chemical castration medicine? I can't just waltz into a pharmacy and ask for something like that-- they'll have me committed. I know that you can order the pills online, but how long does it take for sexual desire to permanently be destroyed without having to take medicine?

VonBronnReaver (imported) wrote: Sat Mar 26, 2011 1:07 pm But where can I get a prescription for the chemical castration medicine? I can't just waltz into a pharmacy and ask for something like that-- they'll have me committed. I know that you can order the pills online, but how long does it take for sexual desire to permanently be destroyed without having to take medicine?

Start with a doctor who might write a prescription. I am certain that if you go to an MD and tell him what you've said to us, that he will either help you (right then and there) or more likely point you to a professional who can help you.

The other point is to quit loathing yourself. I hear a lot of self-loathing and near self-hate in your writing. If you don't like what you are doing then stop it. Writing this thread is part of that. Giving voice to that wish to stop is part of that.

However, since you are young and the human body requires interactions with other humans, you need to find a way to release those desires that do not revolt you. I gave up picking up men in bars many years ago because it was unsatisfying to me. It made me feel bad the morning after. I said to myself that this is not the life I want and I stopped it. I have really iron hard willpower and can do that. I simply found other friends and other outlets.

I'm trying to convince you to do that too. Make other friends. Find other sexual outlets. Do not go to a bar to do that. Go somewhere else. When you feel that horny lust fill your mind of I want that man's body, put that effort into something else.

These aren't easy things. I know full well they aren't and the things might not work for you. Right now, I'm not sure that permanent physical adjustment is the proper way to go.

I wouldn't say that to some of the GID people we have here who change their gender. Because they articulate their desires in a different way. Still, I have said - go to a counselor or a therapist and talk these things out. You may still get the castration but you will understand yourself and the why you did it better.

No one chooses to be gay, NO ONE. You can choose to engage in a homosexual act, but that does not make you gay. (a crackhead will do ANYTHING for a fix, even suck a dick, but that doesn't make him gay. It makes him desperate) And frankly, since you have never had sex, you have not CHOSEN to be anything except a guy who thinks about other guys.

Homosexuality is genetic. If you believed in evolution, you would understand this. But I suspect you are some religious fanatic who is trolling here to get someone to admit they chose to be gay. It's not gonna happen because people don't choose. Their DNA chooses for them.

Please, go troll somewhere else.

Reread this whole thread, please. This is a troll with a religeo-politcal bent. Just saying. My guess is that he is approximately between the ages of 38 and 45, married, with homosexual desires he struggles to control. Refocused energy toward the "myth" of homosexuality gives him some relief. Until he sees a fat cock on the internet...

All of these quotes, and others convince me that this guy is a troll. He is either looking for anecdotes from others that say they chose to be gay or he is selling a book. Either way, he surely does not need assistance from anyone here.

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VonBronnReaver (imported) wrote: Fri Mar 25, 2011 12:34 pm I wi

VonBronnReaver (imported) wrote: Sat Mar 26, 2011 9:53 am ll not be terrorized by the homosexual community

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"My father, a Baptist, insists that God made me the way I am and that it's not a sin to be homosexual."

"I'm in therapy, right now. My doctor,

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VonBronnReaver (imported) wrote: Fri Mar 25, 2011 2:54 pm o specializes in psychosexuality and is openly gay himself"

"If you want to get real specific, I was actually forced into choosing homosexuality, because most of my friends were gay and I felt the only way to fit in was for me to be gay, too."

"Right now I'm reading a book that's changing my life: "Crash," by J.G. Ballard, the author was either severely sexually disturbed or a devout antisexual. It's about how our depende

nce on technology has given birth to a perverse new sexuality."

The Lurker (imported) wrote: Sat Mar 26, 2011 3:52 pm All of these quotes, and others convince me that this guy is a troll. He is either looking for anecdotes from others that say they chose to be gay or he is selling a book. Either way, he surely does not need assistance from anyone here.

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VonBronnReaver (imported) wrote: Fri Mar 25, 2011 12:34 pm

The Lurker (imported) wrote: Sat Mar 26, 2011 3:52 pm I wi

VonBronnReaver (imported) wrote: Sat Mar 26, 2011 9:53 am ll not be terrorized by the homosexual community

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"My father, a Baptist, insists

that God made me the way I am and that it's not a sin to be homosexual."

"I'm in therapy, right now. My doctor,

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VonBronnReaver (imported) wrote: Fri Mar 25, 2011 2:54 pm o specializes in psychosexuality and is openly gay himself"

"If you want to get real specific, I was actually forced into choosing homosexuality, because most of my friends were gay and I felt the only way to fit in was for me to be gay, too."

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The Lurker (imported) wrote: Sat Mar 26, 2011 3:52 pm t now I'm reading a book that's changing my life: "Crash," by J.

G. Ballard, the author was either severely sexually disturbed or a devout antisexual. It's about how our depende

nce on technology has given birth to a perverse new sexuality."

That idea crossed my mind. I was wondering why go to all the trouble and risk to have gastric bypass if not to improve your health and appearance. Then when you rid yourself of T make the weight loss more difficult. Of course if he is not a troll he needs us so much. I certainly hope he is under a therapists care.

I will be watching this thread, I tend to agree with the troll idea, however I will keep an open mind at least for a day or so.

River

Riverwind (imported) wrote: Sat Mar 26, 2011 10:32 pm I will be watching this thread, I tend to agree with the troll idea, however I will keep an open mind at least for a day or so.

River

I think the original poster is in major need of counseling for sexual abuse if what he posted it real. Sounds like he's most likely hetero who had a horrible experience that scarred him and sent him careening to the gay sex world to avoid women.

OTOH if could be a troll...but counseling is the way to get better regardless here...

The Lurker (imported) wrote: Sat Mar 26, 2011 3:38 pm Reread this whole thread, please. This is a troll with a religeo-politcal bent. Just saying. My guess is that he is approximately between the ages of 38 and 45, married, with homosexual desires he struggles to control. Refocused energy toward the "myth" of homosexuality gives him some relief. Until he sees a fat cock on the internet...

I agree. This one has knocked the needle off of the BS meter.

Wow, you guys really suck, to say I'm a troll. I came here for help and to vent.

Isn't that what the internet's for? Do you really think I would take all the time and energy out of my day just to troll you?

Fine, believe what you will, and lock this thread if you want. But I stand by my statement that I'm not a troll, and I certainly won't be coming back to this website for any advice. The gays wouldn't have me, the straights wouldn't have me, and now not even the eunuchs will have me. Thanks a lot.

Fuck you guys, no one understands my complex sexuality, and I guess they never will. Thanks for nothing. I'll never use this website again-- what kind of troll says "I will bother you no more?" Well, I guess if I am a troll, there's a first time for everything.