chemcast scot (imported) wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2011 4:32 pm In the 20th century japan was hit by the H bomb, now in the 21st century they have been hit again by leaks from the power stations, lets pray it will not get any worse for them.

A-bomb times two, much smaller.

One Uranium based. One Plutonium based.

California has a mandated program that requires all people who live within 15 miles of a nuclear plant to have these pills. The pills have a four year shelf life. The people in the program get a new set of pills every four years, automatically, for free.

I wonder how many people that lived in New York in 1986 are glowing in the dark now? Chernobyl was closer to New York than this Japanese plant is to the continental US.

Losethem (imported) wrote: Fri Mar 18, 2011 12:01 pm I wonder how many people that lived in New York in 1986 are glowing in the dark now? Chernobyl was closer to New York than this Japanese plant is to the continental US.

That's a truly brilliant piece of logic -- No one in New York was hurt so Chernobyl wasn't a disaster.

Wow!

Dave (imported) wrote: Fri Mar 18, 2011 3:42 pm That's a truly brilliant piece of logic -- No one in New York was hurt so Chernobyl wasn't a disaster.

Wow!

Somehow I doubt he was attempting to minimize Chernobyl.

Just point out the foolishness of people in North America going mental over the thought that they will somehow be contaminated by what's going on in Japan.

If a truly horrific event like Chernobyl (which was closer to the US than Japan is) failed to irradiate the east coast, then exactly how likely is it that the so far relatively minor* events in Japan are going to hit the west coast of North America, much less the heartland or east coast.

*Relatively minor only in comparison to Chernobyl. I'm not attempting to minimize the scale of the disaster, but so far it has not come close to what happened in 1986. It's still a major disaster.

Well that was unfair but we all have a bit (an atom or two) of Chernobyl in us. So much of the reactor core blew up and burnt in the atmosphere, the pollution circled the globe several times.

What will reach the USA from Japan is airborne particulates. They won't be enough to hurt anyone that we'd notice more than an minor uptick in cancer rates. Perhaps a fish or the next gallon of milk will have a few atoms from Fukushima. That's harmful.

Dave (imported) wrote: Fri Mar 18, 2011 5:48 pm Well that was unfair but we all have a bit (an atom or two) of Chernobyl in us. So much of the reactor core blew up and burnt in the atmosphere, the pollution circled the globe several times.

What will reach the USA from Japan is airborne particulates. They won't be enough to hurt anyone that we'd notice more than an minor uptick in cancer rates. Perhaps a fish or the next gallon of milk will have a few atoms from Fukushima. That's harmful.

It is more harmful to breathe it than to eat it. The I-131 will be through quite a few half lives before it makes its way into beef, produce and cow's milk.

Basically, the exposure from reactor byproducts and general contamination from that source in America will be below threshold for all the known Cancers. I am aware that theoretically there is risk but it is so low that it cannot be measured statistically and therefore any justifable estimate is small compared to the background exposure that exists naturally in nature.

The GREATEST exposure of humanity to ionizing radiation is by far from diagnostic medicine.

It is best to leave these calculations for CDC in Atlanta.

Then again as with falsified reactor safety

reports or genital injuries in war or even post

vaccination autism -

we don't get the facts.

Too many first hand account of a kid going "odd"

after a vaccination even from my pharmacist who has five sons.

One got it from the MMR but as a young adult seems to be more social.

Too many first hand accounts of a Navy person getting a "wierd" disease, loosing hair and dying but, no diagnosis to the family. I know two I believe.

Re. Radiation - How about this

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susan_Hayward

"There is speculation that she may have been affected by radioactive fallout from atmospheric atomic bomb tests[5] while making The Conqueror with John Wayne. Several production members, as well as Wayne himself, Agnes Moorehead and Pedro Armendariz, later succumbed to cancer and cancer-related illnesses." Susan Hayward's costume dress was recently examined and found to have "safe" radioactive dust.

Regardless of Government Numbers and related propaganda assurances, common sense and basic science tells us this is really bad man made stuff as poisons the whole biosphere of our common Earth . Not to be minimalized or marginalized.

The west coast has radiation monitors all over the place now. So what? We can only be, another victim as are all of us!

So basically I do not believe any minced numbers that do not meet with personal experience or other accounts of direct observations per link.

Moi

BSc Biological Sciences, Magna Cum Laude

At my best I could draw the whole biochemistry chart on a blank piece of butcher paper. Took hours. Names, structures, etc.

Moi, its definitely time for you to get a lead based suit and make sure your house is also.

River

Riverwind (imported) wrote: Fri Mar 18, 2011 10:14 pm Moi, its definitely time for you to get a lead based suit and make sure your house is also.

River

For your benefit;

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moi621 (imported) wrote: Fri Mar 18, 2011 8:24 pm this is really bad man made stuff as poisons the whole biosphere of our common Earth. Not to be minimalized or marginalized.

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I guess I should have added, humorized as creates insensitivity to the issue.

I would favor abandoning Nuclear first and go after Oil related energy after.

Fill the hole with Biomass (now that is funny!).

What could not be funny about, Biomass?

Moi