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Re: The boy who was raised a girl
Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 7:33 am
by punkypink (imported)
Prickson (imported) wrote: Fri Nov 26, 2010 7:18 am
My deep wonder is how Bruce, despite been castrated, got married. If he did it for doing sake, it's understandable. But if he truly had feelings for the girl---then that's very questionable. I would then ask: where does emotion and attraction spring from in a man if not from the testosterone produced by the testicles? Or would somebody say love actually comes from THE HEART(Literally) and not from THE BRAIN?
Er, preference has nothing to do with testosterone?
How else do a lot of cisgendered lesbians feel attraction to women?
Or indeed, how do those eunuchs who feel love for women do so?
Re: The boy who was raised a girl
Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 9:01 am
by Prickson (imported)
Great! Now i know that it's possible for a eunuch to feel love towards a woman. I thought it was impossible all along! No wonder love is totally different from lust. While love comes from the heart, lust is purely from the testicles, if i'm not mistaken. Hence what shall i say? Any lady looking for a man she's 100% sure loves her should look out for a eunuch! What a ballless marriage!
Re: The boy who was raised a girl
Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 10:54 am
by raymar2020 (imported)
This case has always to me been a total farce. Dr money, who practiced here in my home town, and was "supposedly" the expert in such things, was playing God with other peoples children. I do know that he did the same thing to several other children with ambiguous genitals.
The Reimer case has never been really detailed in so far as the extent of damage that was done during the failed circumcision. I grew up with a boy who at age five took a sharp pair of scissors and cut off his penis, thinking that it would stop him wetting the bed. While it was true that prior to puberty he had virtually no exposed penis, once the hormones kicked in he developed a short nub where his penis should be, Over time, and with some stretching exercises, he eventually managed to have an erection that was nearly 3 inches long. He married, and has 3 grown children now, all conceived in the natural way.
The penile stump that he has is by no means attractive, and as an adult is still very short when flaccid, but it does work, and he has managed now well into his 50's with it. Why in the Reimer case was this not possible? Most likely , Dr Money saw an opportunity, and took advantage of the well meaning but naive parents.
Sexuality has nothing to do with what genitals you have or don't have , it is part of the mind, and occasionally people are born where physical sex and the mind are mismatched. They are the people we call transgendered. I also went to school with a tall pretty effeminate boy who at first pronounced himself Gay. He went along in that role til about age 25 when he finally decided that the issue was that he had the wrong parts. It took him over 10 years to complete the transition, as he had to pay all the costs himself. I haven't seen him/her in several years now, but the last time I did, what I saw was a very lovely middleaged woman, who was not only very content, but also happily married to a straight man, who is well aware that his wife used to be a man.
Nurture affects our character, and our morals, but our inner sexuality is something that we are born with, and can't be changed by something so simple as surgery.
Raymar
Re: The boy who was raised a girl
Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 6:10 pm
by Prickson (imported)
Me and my own definition of a STRAIGHT guy means i wouldn't be comfortable marrying a woman if i knew she was once a man though. But based on transgender wannabe's i would say it could be a fault in the brain that makes the mind not to match with the sex organs. Not that i mean any offense though, but that's what i sorta think because such wishful desires, clearly shown from Bruce's case, can lead to suicide and of course that's not natural.
Re: The boy who was raised a girl
Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 1:46 am
by punkypink (imported)
Prickson (imported) wrote: Sat Nov 27, 2010 9:01 am
Great! Now i know that it's possible for a eunuch to feel love towards a woman. I thought it was impossible all along! No wonder love is totally different from lust. While love comes from the heart, lust is purely from the testicles, if i'm not mistaken. Hence what shall i say? Any lady looking for a man she's 100% sure loves her should look out for a eunuch! What a ballless marriage!
If lust is from the testicles, where do women who lust get it from?
Re: The boy who was raised a girl
Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 1:50 am
by punkypink (imported)
Prickson (imported) wrote: Sat Nov 27, 2010 6:10 pm
Me and my own definition of a STRAIGHT guy means i wouldn't be comfortable marrying a woman if i knew she was once a man though. But based on transgender wannabe's i would say it could be a fault in the brain that makes the mind not to match with the sex organs. Not that i mean any offense though, but that's what i sorta think because such wishful desires, clearly shown from Bruce's case, can lead to suicide and of course that's not natural.
That's because Bruce wasn't trans to begin with.
It's already been proven for over 10 years that trans women who are pre-hormones already have a physically female structured brain inside a male body. Call it a fault, call it diversity, call it whatever, the fact is, its a natural phenomenon.
What is unnatural, is to force a cis person to live as the opposite gender, or to force a trans person to live as the gender they are not.
Re: The boy who was raised a girl
Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 6:02 am
by YourPhriendlyAuthor (imported)
Prickson (imported) wrote: Sat Nov 27, 2010 9:01 am
Great! Now i know that it's possible for a eunuch to feel love towards a woman. I thought it was impossible all along! No wonder love is totally different from lust. While love comes from the heart, lust is purely from the testicles, if i'm not mistaken. Hence what shall i say? Any lady looking for a man she's 100% sure loves her should look out for a eunuch! What a ballless marriage!
Prickson,
Unfortunately, you're mistaken...
Lust is a manifestation of the primal instinct for procreation, and as such, is controlled by the primal areas of the brain, most notably the Limbic system.
-YPA
Re: The boy who was raised a girl
Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 8:41 am
by Caith721 (imported)
I'll disagree with you. Lust has nothing to do with procreation, at least in my case. If I lust after someone, it's because I want to have wild, nasty, down-and-dirty sex with them. For me, sex is in my mind and my body allows me to act it out. Lust is all about desparately wanting to satisfy my mind's desires.
Re: The boy who was raised a girl
Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 8:47 am
by Prickson (imported)
punkypink (imported) wrote: Sun Nov 28, 2010 1:46 am
If lust is from the testicles, where do women who lust get it from?
Well, i meant lust for the men. But i think while mens' lust comes from the testicles, women's lust would come from whatever hormone is responsible for the growth of their breasts, their voice and their feminine character in general. Just like removing a man's testicles would remove sexual urges, removing this hormone should also work on women.
Re: The boy who was raised a girl
Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 9:05 am
by Prickson (imported)
YourPhriendlyAuthor (imported) wrote: Sun Nov 28, 2010 6:02 am
Prickson,
Unfortunately, you're mistaken...
Lust is a manifestation of the primal instinct for procreation, and as such, is controlled by the primal areas of the brain, most notably the Limbic system.
-YPA
Guess you should ask an experienced masturbator and he'll tell you how he feels before and after a session. Effect of testosterone FROM the testicles right? Now you know...