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Re: NY Times: "Who can resist a man who sings like a woman?"

Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 9:10 pm
by twaddler (imported)
coyle123 (imported) wrote: Wed Nov 24, 2010 7:34 am He has no visible adam's apple in the close-up photo on the article page.

Listen to the audio clips linked there -- it's gorgeous, and in no way sounds falsetto.

In that video that Jesus posted his adam's apple seems to be of very normal prominence -- not the least bit undersized, invisible, or tiny; it just may seem that way because of the
twaddler (imported) wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2010 12:42 pm sag of his neck/jaw skin obscu
ring it to some degree.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBpjdcICDBw

^-- notice in this interview: his voice sounds very typically male. This would seem to show that his singing voice is something that
EnchantedHunter (imported) wrote: Sun Dec 05, 2010 7:21 pm he's trained himself over many years of practice to do, and not a result of severe lack of androgens -- yesno?

My guess confirmed by a medical professional? Ah ha!😄

Is Klinefelters a special kind of congenital hypogonadism?

He is gay. He talks about his boyfriend in this interview. Sorry it's in German.

http://www.siegessaeule.de/kultur/buehn ... ssten.html

I also found in this website some information about Klinefelters.

http://www.gendercentre.org.au/29article14.htm

It says that "Most Klinefelter's Syndrome people have had sex with someone of their same gender during puberty. Studies I have seen shown that 80% of all boys experience something along this line, but only 10% of the population appears to be "gay". There does not appear to be any defined indication if any of the 20% that did not have a gay experience ended up gay". But this contradicts what I read on wikipedia. I don't know which is correct.

According to the article, the common characteristics also includes being shy and passive. Jaroussky himself says he has a pudique(bashful) and calme nature. It also says those are more likely to have langu
age problems, but in YouTube videos you can hear him speaking French, Spanish, German and English in interviews.

That article definitely paints a more extreme case of Klinefelter's. Really though, the effects of Klinefe
EnchantedHunter (imported) wrote: Sun Dec 05, 2010 7:21 pm lter's vary greatly and are different for each person. Some XXY males do not have Klinefelter's synd
rome at all.

"Most Klinefelter's Syndrome people have had sex with someone of their same gender during puberty."

Say what? Isn't sexual experimentation during puberty common for most people?

Try some place like XXYtalk.com to get a much wider perspective on XXY people. :)

Re: NY Times: "Who can resist a man who sings like a woman?"

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2010 8:01 am
by EnchantedHunter (imported)
Ok, it may be wishful thinking on my part, but don't you think an adam's apple looks more pointy than what you see around his throat in this video?
twaddler (imported) wrote: Thu Dec 02, 2010 12:42 pm http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=
G-KBNFyFVpg

His chest voice is baritone. But Klinefelter's may have helped him develop a more sweet and feminine head voice. It's just my guess though. In any case, his beautiful tone and virtuosity takes hard work. I just think it'd more more sexy if he's naturally more feminine.

Re: NY Times: "Who can resist a man who sings like a woman?"

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2010 10:35 pm
by devi (imported)
You know, there seems to be a lot of male sopranos showing up on YouTube now. Sometime I'd like to come with a full list of all of them. There were easily at least a half dozen with the French portion and then someone showed me somebody else in English. I know from the past there have been several in the Spanish and of course there is the LatvianRussian "Vitas". Maybe next time I get on YouTube I might try and keep a list. Then maybe I might buy up all of their CDs or whatever and play only men-only and all soprano music for a while and sing along too even.

Re: NY Times: "Who can resist a man who sings like a woman?"

Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 12:52 pm
by ktgktgktg (imported)
Well, Jaroussky is really good, but he is not unique. There are so many counter-tenors now.. f.e. enough to play on stage Landy's Il'SAnct Alessio - 14 total! Interest to early barocco music in the beginning of our century rised and so music academies started to produce countertenors. Today there are so many techniques and drugs to preserve voice... so y'ou do not need to castrate boys.

Yes Jaroussky looks freaky, but f.e. look at his "rival" Max Cencic - quite a normal looking guy. Also because it is easy to find Cencic records as a boy soprano we can easily see that his voice changed significantly when he grows up, but still in countertenor range.