Atrophied balls due to testosterone pills

[impotentus (imported)]

Today this friend of mine told me that he has been taking these from nearly two years ago. I was gonna kill him for that. Sorry about the fucking inconvenience. He told me that in a single week, today I went to ask him and he confessed that he took it for nearly two years (in the same dose). Even I thought that it was something starnge about it.

[Dave (imported)]

He´s one of these guys "the more the better". Unfortunately, this is not the case, he has stopped taking these already and he is checking himself every 3 days, he still gets iron hard erections and has hellish libido, but he is scared to death yet, in fear that his precious jewels never recover...

I am glad I only took one dose though.

The "more the better" is not a good idea to follow -- especially not with hormones. This is why we counsel people to tell a doctor and get tests.

Even the chemicals we call vitamins are not good in excess. In fact, some are absolutely harmful in excess.

And don't feel bad about asking for advice. It's one of the better things you can do - ask for advice.

[_g (imported)]

That friend of mine took 5 pills (5 mg each) of testosterone for a week

(although these are also loaded with vitamins) and his balls became much smaller. They look like small grapes to me and he is scared to death, some thoughts?

Thanks

After two years he needs to see a Doctor and see if the durgs given by the doc will restart his testicles, but he most likely never farther any children after two years.

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[SplitDik (imported)]

Okay, I've taken a lot of steroids over the years and want to clear up some information in this thread.

First of all, oral testosterone is quite effective. However the reason people don't take it is that it ruins your liver. Don't take oral testosterone!!!

Secondly, ball shrinkage is very common effect from taking steroids and in fact is the first joke people make about steroid use.

However, it is not permanent and as far as I know doesn't affect fertility or later natural testosterone production. They get smaller because they are not needed for testosterone production while your body is getting testosterone externally through pills.

Anyway, he can just stop. However, while stopping he should take Nolvadex or Clomid in order to help "kick-start" the testicles back into natural testosterone production. Serious steroid users always do this, otherwise the testicles don't respond for a while and you'll get a period of low testosterone and possible feminizing effects (like bitch tits).

Overall, he's seeing a common effect.

My big worry is about what he can't see -- his liver. Guys like him who are taking lots of steroids often psychologically can't stop, because they are focused on getting big/strong and usually have a body image disorder. So he may need psychological help to stop. If he insists on being a steroid user, he MUST go to injectables. I know more than one guy who have died due to liver failure due oral steroids.

[_g (imported)]

Okay, I've taken a lot of steroids over the years and want to clear up some information in this thread.

First of all, oral testosterone is quite effective. However the reason people don't take it is that it ruins your liver. Don't take oral testosterone!!!

Secondly, ball shrinkage is very common effect from taking steroids and in fact is the first joke people make about steroid use.

However, it is not permanent and as far as I know doesn't affect fertility or later natural testosterone production. They get smaller because they are not needed for testosterone production while your body is getting testosterone externally through pills.

Anyway, he can just stop. However, while stopping he should take Nolvadex or Clomid in order to help "kick-start" the testicles back into natural testosterone production. Serious steroid users always do this, otherwise the testicles don't respond for a while and you'll get a period of low testosterone and possible feminizing effects (like bitch tits).

Overall, he's seeing a common effect.

My big worry is about what he can't see -- his liver. Guys like him who are taking lots of steroids often psychologically can't stop, because they are focused on getting big/strong and usually have a body image disorder. So he may need psychological help to stop. If he insists on being a steroid user, he MUST go to injectables. I know more than one guy who have died due to liver failure due oral steroids.

The problem is if he did not cycle, then it's the same effect of taking an anti-androgen for 2 years. It's the time the testicles are shut down that determinants the possibility of recovery, longer the time, the less chance of recovery.

[SplitDik (imported)]

The problem is if he did not cycle, then it's the same effect of taking an anti-androgen for 2 years. It's the time the testicles are shut down that determinants the possibility of recovery, longer the time, the less chance of recovery.

Maybe, but the testicles are pretty resilient (I've tried to kill mine for years and they are still going strong). Also, I know lots of guys who pretty much take roids continuously, very few do full cycling because roid users are the "more is better" mindset and they can't stand not being on it.

Basically the thread starter is taking roids and saying his balls are small. This is no surprise, and is a common effect, and in the vast majority of cases reversible. Yeah, it will take a while for the "boys" to start up again, so I would recommend the bodybuilding solutions (such as clomid). But they will come back. I personally would just take Tamoxifen to avoid any feminization effects and then just wait and see what happens.