I only included the blog for "FemMed" as it listed the ingrediants, because the site from the creator of the supplement did not list the ingrediants. I wasn't intending to imply they were medical professionals.

Please see the link below:

http://www.femmed.com/compliance.asp

As for some of the ingrediants:

From The Mayo Clinic:

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/saw-pa ... awpalmetto

"Saw palmetto was listed in the United States Pharmacopeia from 1906 to 1917 and in the National Formulary from 1926 to 1950. Saw palmetto extract is a licensed product in several European countries."

"Multiple mechanisms of action have been proposed, and saw palmetto appears to possess 5-#945;-reductase inhibitory activity (thereby preventing the conversion of testosterone to dihydrotestosterone). Hormonal/estrogenic effects have also been reported, as well as direct inhibitory effects on androgen receptors and anti-inflammatory properties."

Milk Thistle

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/silyma ... ilkthistle

"Milk thistle has been used medicinally for over 2,000 years, most commonly for the treatment of liver and gallbladder disorders. A flavonoid complex called silymarin can be extracted from the seeds of milk thistle and is believed to be the biologically active component. The terms "milk thistle" and "silymarin" are often used interchangeably."

"Milk thistle products are popular in Europe and the United States for various types of liver disease. Although numerous human trials have been published, most studies have not been well designed or reported."

From Vancouver Coastal Health:

http://transhealth.vch.ca/resources/careguidelines.html

clicking "Hormones: A guide to MTF's"

"Cyproterone (Androcur) can be used but risks include depression and liver enzyme elevation so Spironolactone is preferred."

And Androcur is not approved by the United States Food and Drug Administration (FDA) so it's not even available in the US, unless purchased from an overseas source.

My whole point here is that information and some experimentation leads to knowledge, and sharing that with others, and them with the greater community, is usually a good thing.

B

I take 4mg of estrogen a day - I tried the herbals - NOTHING works.

Now Saw Palmetto DOES work as the ONLY herbal I tried to reduce T levels SOMEWHAT - but does nothing for feminization in "most" males.

I actually preferred Saw Palmetto over chemical drugs for castration...it does work but not as strong...for me..

I'm not sure if this is any better than any other herbal supplement, but I thought I'd ask. Evansce is supposedly better. From their website: By using Standardized and concentrated herbal extracts, i.e., just active ingredients at a molecular level, it is easy to get powerful potent results, instead of having to eat hands-full, or bottles full, of store/whole herbs every day.

Here's a link to that website:

http://www.myevanesce.com/

My question: Is this worth even checking out?

Freddy

Freddy12 (imported) wrote: Tue Mar 23, 2010 5:22 pm I'm not sure if this is any better than any other herbal supplement, but I thought I'd ask. Evansce is supposedly better. From their website: By using Standardized and concentrated herbal extracts, i.e., just active ingredients at a molecular level, it is easy to get powerful potent results, instead of having to eat hands-full, or bottles full, of store/whole herbs every day.

Here's a link to that website:

http://www.myevanesce.com/

My question: Is this worth even checking out?

Freddy

I would strongly recommend using the search function here, and look up evanesence. You will find a very large amount of discussion about it, pro and con.

Personally, I believe that herbals are a big waste of time and money, creating great disappointment when expected results do not appear or are illusory.

kristoff wrote: Tue Mar 23, 2010 6:31 pm I would strongly recommend using the search function here, and look up evanesence. You will find a very large amount of discussion about it, pro and con.

Personally, I believe that herbals are a big waste of time and money, creating great disappointment when expected results do not appear or are illusory.

The problem with herbal medication is that the active ingredients are variable. As every cook knows, the potency of herbs depends on season, growing conditions, and the time of day it is picked. Most cooks pick basil or oregano in the morning for more intense favor and aroma and tend to leave it alone in the afternoon. The romantic fantasy that because something comes out of the ground it is better for you ignores that fact in the end it is still just a chemical.

Because herbs are so variable in their potency it is much harder to gauge the proper dosage. It is hard enough to get dosages right for individuals because of different weights and metabolisms when you are dealing with a consistent, known drug; when the drug is present in varying quantities mixed with fiber and contaminants it is even harder, which is why so many herbal healers were also (unintentional) poisoners.