The study must be fake. As the term ROD rage, from body building. There are too many conflicting facts.

_g

I have read about similar study (It very well may be that it was the same), though not in English. In it it was stated that participants were women. Therefore T dose was small. It is very likely that it made them feel better (better mood, clearer thinking). Nearly everyone is fairer, when they feel better. That said... male testosterone levels are many times higher.

T causes more aggressive and combative behaviour, and the major differences in the behaviour of individuals of different genders exist because of blood chemistry difference.

Batman (imported) wrote: Thu Dec 10, 2009 2:13 pm I don't think Testosterone causes aggression (at least having been diagnonsed as low for years, and then getting on TRT) in my own experience. However the near complete removal of T from a man, would remove a lot of his energy/fuel.

To put it better, adding T to a normal male, isn't the same as completely removing T from a man's body...two very different things.

I'll agree with the study. I have dealt with low T for most of my adult life and I have found that the lower my T goes, the crankier and more combative I get. That has been my experience.

IMHO, I think enough people have been brainwashed by the feminists to consider men inferior and less intelligent than women due to their higher T levels. I use, as my proof, the prevailing dictum of Madison Avenue advertising that it is always the woman who helps the bumbling and clueless male find the answer to each and every problem.

mrt (imported) wrote: Thu Dec 10, 2009 7:31 am My experience is the same. With low testosterone I was crabby, mean etc. Once I got on HRT (post op) and was in normal levels I was much "nicer"

That is my experience (although my low levels were due to my diabetes). I feel so much better, act nicer, and am much more agreeable to be around when my testosterone levels are on the high side of normal.

Speed

Just on the surface, without a detailed examination of the study, it appears the evaluation was based upon results of elevating the T level of some study subjects. Perhaps a better study would include comparing elevated levels to lowered levels.....even comparing post puberty castrated males and pre-puberty castrated males to non-castrated males with low, average, and high T levels.

My take on the study is that some of the validated data might be useful in better studies but that this study in insufficient to make any kind of conclusive statements.

However as flawed as the study was I do have to commend them for seeming to begin to dispell part of the myth about the eunuch being a bore, couch potato, servant, slave, bottom, or whatever that for some reason people (at least in the western world) seem to consider as being the personality of a eunuch. I know more than a few people have come out on this website either looking for or else wanting to be a "bottom" via becoming a eunuch. The fact is that each individual in the world (including animal) has their very own personality. If you have ever dealt with livestock or any other types of animals you know this to be very true. And there is also this great deal of variation of personality within the individual sexes themselves. It is true that the bulls do generally have to be sequestered from the cows (a lot of it having to do with mating out of season) but there are also times when two individuals do have to be separated from each other too. When you do separate the bulls away though you may notice better some of the females acting very aggressively toward the others but this has actually been going on before. You just hadn't quite noticed it before.

_g (imported) wrote: Fri Dec 11, 2009 12:29 pm The study must be fake. As the term ROD rage, from body building. There are too many conflicting facts.

_g

I think you have to consider that the so called "athletes" who abuse steroids are using them in levels that greatly exceed any normal range for males. If you take 5x, 10, 20x the amount of Testosterone then is normally produced by a male? Then your going to have a lot of abnormal behaviour.