Felixster (imported) wrote: Sat Dec 05, 2009 4:04 pm Thanks Dave

Can anyone here tell me about his experiences after becoming a eunuch. How did you cope with HRT and did you experience any health problems? Any comments help!

I'm not too crazy about your motives. But I don't have BID either. You should take note of the comments on how much work it is to get HRT working right. I would not be off it but it was a pain getting it so it worked well for me. I think its difficult for a man your age to "know" he is never going to need to be fertile. This is an issue that takes a crystal ball to figure out so if you really are hell bent to have Dr Reed do an orchiectomy PLEASE bank sperm. Better yet talk to some of those shrinks a good long time before you move forward with this. I think the outcome will be underwhelming in many ways. Think women who have had a hysterectomy and go on HRT. The end result is just a very sterile women.

Some post op things to ponder. You might have to take Calcium for life. You will want to get a Bone scan once in a while. Androgel might not work for you (Skin issues) so you might have to opt for an injectable Testosterone and the UK is keen on these long lasting esters which seem (by reports from patients) to not really last long and thus you could be miserable. And once done there is NO way to get back.

Really ponder this.

OK?

MrT

You've been given a lot of good information, I would add that "weight gain" is a problem for eunuchs even those on HRT. You've got to avoid the fattier foods and maintain a strict diet and exercise. Not much different than what most doctors are telling men today, so even not castrates are being advised regarding eating healthier.

You might have already been told to try "chemical castration" first, I'm not sure. But it's a good way to test out castration without being castrated. If you can find a female doctor and tell her that you feel your sex drive is too strong, causing you to spend hours looking at porn, etc., she'll most likely be willing to give you some "depo provera." That will give you a good sense of what it means to be a true eunuch. You'll either like the effects or hate it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemical_castration

Since I became a eunuch, even using a low dose compounded testosterone regimen to prevent osteoporosis & depression, my sexual desire is very low, my penis has shrunk even though I can get some soft erections, and I've gained some weight. Some of these changes are due to my age, 52, but most of the changes are because I'm castrated and like that I am.

Lastly, regarding the scrotum, I had mine removed because in my mind, it was part of what I didn't need or even want. I've had the same feelings about my penis, but it's not a very strong desire so I haven't acted upon it, nor do I know if I ever will. Some castrated eunuchs will tell you that penis removal is something that they seek. So penectomy can become the last step of eunuch hood. malebodymods,com (cost 10 bucks to join) has several nullo eunuchs showing the extent of their modifications. They have several good castration videos and one decent penectomy video.

The problem is that your reasons may not be worth the risks. I know that self-image, aesthetics, and identity are indeed important. However, there are risks from any surgery (have you read some of the accounts of complications from Dr. Kimmel's surgeries? or have you read how many women die during cosmetic procedures?). Secondly, without having been chemically castrated you have no idea what it will really feel like to have depressed testosterone levels. And furthermore, with HRT there are issues such as stress on the liver, the difficulty in getting regular injections the rest of your life, and expense. Lastly, you may be limiting your possibilities for life partners and that could take an emotional toll.

While I understand desire to acheive an ideal, the reality is that most of us have to live with non-ideal bodies. I'd love to have a more full head of hair, or leaner body, but personally I don't think the risk of the hair transplant or liposuction is worth it to me.

Anyway, there is never a rush for such things even if you feel an intense desire.

Actually, sometimes getting to the brink is the best way to tell what your true desire is. I personally have several times gone as far as to tie off my genitals and start cutting them when something makes me stop -- as much as I desire for days to cut them off, the actual act is not something I really want to go through with. So don't be afraid to linger "on the brink" and really sort out the fantasy from the reality. I too would like my genitals to be "magically" gone, but the reality is that it won't be magical.

Just some food for thought ...

I wonder if anyone can be 100% sure about removing their genitals, it is a huge step, certainly, if our bodies could grow them back, I suspect that removing them might be considered somewhat normal. But as Splitdick said, linger and ponder, but don't act rashly. For some of us, there seems to be a mental stage where the desire is so consuming that we can't stop ourselves and so we go through with the actual castration. I would advise those of you who are experiencing this constant desire to seek some therapeutic help. The desire to be castrated won't go away naturally, in fact, mine grew stronger. I tried to divert my attention from it, I tried to distract myself, I tried to ignore it, but in the end the desire overwhelmed me so that it seemed out of my control.

Thanks for all your comments so far. I am not taking this lightly. I have had my letters since July and I was temped more than once to pick up the phone and arrange a date for the surgery. I am glad that I didn't do it so far. As there are, as you pointed out, many aspects to consider and it is a decision for life

I am now much calmer about it compared to when I took the courage to contact Dr Reed and the shrinks about the letters. The letters are valid for 2 years so I have some more time to think and feel about it. Maybe I will consider chemical castration, even though removing testosterone is not my primary goal

Hello, I found your message most interesting as it points out the positive and negative sides of your castration. I am 59 and experienced chemical castration last year, some guy of the EA chat made me discover the wonders of chemical, I was enthousiastic, collected as much info as I could, finally tried it and was not disappointed. This test lasted just two months, I stopped, waited some 3 months to get back to "normal" (if one can say "normal" means something) for Christmas and year-end festivities.

After another three months, I decided to resume this experiment and re-injected a dose of depo, this time I know what will happen, look forward to the effects and will make a much longer experience.

I consider being castrated once and for all, the chemical experience helped me find out what to expect, your comments and those of other men are most precious to us all. We must not forget that we are all different and react differently, but thanks to your comments we know what to expect.

I won't forget to let you know how I feel in the weeks to come and what I do next.

Patrick

Patrickchemcast (imported) wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2010 12:58 am Hello, I found your message most interesting as it points out the positive and negative sides of your castration. I am 59 and experienced chemical castration last year, some guy of the EA chat made me discover the wonders of chemical, I was enthousiastic, collected as much info as I could, finally tried it and was not disappointed. This test lasted just two months, I stopped, waited some 3 months to get back to "normal" (if one can say "normal" means something) for Christmas and year-end festivities.

After another three months, I decided to resume this experiment and re-injected a dose of depo, this time I know what will happen, look forward to the effects and will make a much longer experience.

I consider being castrated once and for all, the chemical experience helped me find out what to expect, your comments and those of other men are most precious to us all. We must not forget that we are all different and react differently, but thanks to your comments we know what to expect.

I won't forget to let you know how I feel in the weeks to come and what I do next.

Patrick

Your experiment may not be really completed. You need to have a blood test to see if you are really at castration levels. Just going on the effects is not good enough. If the DP is increased could you have even greater effects? I thought that I was at castration levels with the effects I was having. After the blood test I found I was far from castration levels. Increased the chem and found even greater changes. Far more then I expected.

A few months is no where enough time to do a trial run. Many of the side effects take time to develop.

SplitDik (imported) wrote: Wed Dec 09, 2009 12:33 am The problem is that your reasons may not be worth the risks. I know that self-image, aesthetics, and identity are indeed important. However, there are risks from any surgery (have you read some of the accounts of complications from Dr. Kimmel's surgeries? or have you read how many women die during cosmetic procedures?). Secondly, without having been chemically castrated you have no idea what it will really feel like to have depressed testosterone levels. And furthermore, with HRT there are issues such as stress on the liver, the difficulty in getting regular injections the rest of your life, and expense. Lastly, you may be limiting your possibilities for life partners and that could take an emotional toll.

Just some food for thought ...

I agree with SplitDik's concern in mentioning "limiting...

SplitDik (imported) wrote: Wed Dec 09, 2009 12:33 am possibilities for life partners

" and accepting one's body. Those are noteworthy. Reference to testosterone administration (as HRT) stressing the liver is incorrect. Injections of T don't stress the liver; if anything does, oral administration of sex steroids (testosterone or estrogen) do stress the liver. I'm not aware of oral T (other than buccal, which is absorbed in the cheek) prescribed in the US. From those I know on T, getting regular injections is not that much of a hastle (one can use smaller needles if injecting more frequently than once a week, which makes the pain quite miniscule), and the expense of T itself is around $30 a month. Just some facts to help you weigh related concerns...

I've researched this for myself as I'm in a pretty similar situation to you, Felixster. I like the effects of testosterone- I just want mine to come from a vial instead of my balls, which I've never identified with.