Arab Nights (imported) wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2009 7:20 am We all agree on this.

What I was trying to say is to thank chilli for his post. People like health care folks and cops have to balance all kinds of demands - legal, ethical, etc. - while trying to get a job done. It gets all kinds of complicated, as Yoli's recent answer also shows. All of those are not apparent from a TV program or movie. I appreciate being reminded of the complications. Just my opinion.

AN-

I'm to stupid to de defiant and to stupid to be bad. Thank You. To expand a bit on what you wrote.

Yes I understand many of the angles one could have while observing the show. And people only understand what they already comprehend, or have previously processed. There is no ability for the television veiwer to go farther into the issue, they simply have to make a decision on the limited material presented.

My huge issue with television is it actively explores new gender roles for women, while at the same time keeping men type cast or as inept fools in non typical roles. So I quit watching years ago. And I do understand the complexity of castration in a modern, post binary legal society. I just wish they would have a show where a guy actually wanted rid of his balls and was all the happier for it.

chilli-

FianceeUvBigGuy (imported) wrote: Fri Oct 16, 2009 3:29 am I can understand your feelings but you must consider that the former owners of the samples are unaware (with two exceptions, apparently,) that their items are occasionally and most discreetly displayed. .

It's not a matter of discreetness, its just that it seems that a part removed from your body is still yours. I don't know what the legality is, and maybe the medical waiver for surgery covers some provision for medical staff keeping samples, but it seems that the future of a removed body part should be agreed by the owner (even if it is fine print in some medical form) and if there is no explicit agreement the assumption would be it would be medical waste.

I understand the purient interest, but people should only be looking at others body parts if the original person gave permission or if it has some exceptional medical education or historical value.

I have to agree with 'Split.' While I personally don't care that people see me naked, see any body parts that might been removed from me or see of do other things with my body once I've passed on, many don't feel the same way. Their views need to be respected.

SplitDik (imported) wrote: Wed Oct 21, 2009 4:45 am It's not a matter of discreetness, its just that it seems that a part removed from your body is still yours.........I understand the purient interest, but people should only be looking at others body parts if the original person gave permission or if it has some exceptional medical education or historical value.

Yoli, back again..you lucky people!;)

Look, ladies and genitals, I did NOT initiate the "Show and Tell". I simply provided the venue.

I understand the majority viewpoint as stated and to some extent agree with it. After all, if I lost a bewb (or 2) to cancer I'd probably prefer they remain closely cloistered in a jar...I mean JUG(s) rather than be on public display.

On the other hand if various parts are seen anonymously then there's little or no chance that donors' privacy is in any way compromised. So, just don't label the jars...I mean jugs..."Yoli's Bewbs" and all is well, with me at least.

It is true that our KiKaKo member does know the identity of some of the more recent contributors of balls or the very few peepees but she is not ever going to pass out names and phone numbers so that one of us could call and ask a castrated man "How're they hangin'?" or ask a penectomy patient if he can write his name in the snow.

So far as the prurient interest factor goes I can say that most of the small group of viewers are more prone to becoming a bit green about the gills than suddenly having an urge to fondle the parts or engage in sex. As for me, I admit to an "Oh, Wow! Guys really do sometimes have to have their balls or peepees cut off!" the first time I viewed the array of goods but that gave way to sadness brought on by the knowledge that their "contributions" were, I assume, not made voluntarily but rather as a matter of medical necessity.

That said, some of the items were taken from cadavers willed to research and thus were perfectly healthy (other than being a little dead.) That explains why a couple of the peepees looked OK rather than all abloom with disfiguring tumors and other nasties.

For my part I can say that I've been there, done that, and got the tee-shirt and have no wish to see those parts again. About the only severed balls or peepees I MIGHT ever willingly view in the future would be those forfeited, preferably in Alamo Plaza or in the Alamo Dome, (in case of inclement weather,) by egregious sex offenders.

It is what it is, friends and lovers, whether I approve or not.

(That's the FIRST and, I hope, ONLY time I'll ever use that phrase..."It is what...etc". I hold that in the same low esteem I reserve for "Irregardless" and "I miss not having my whatever.") America is guilty of the cold-blooded murder of the English language.

Ok, defense rests

Yoli

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