ukeunuch (imported) wrote: Sat May 02, 2009 1:29 am I personaly believe that CBT ( cognative Behavioral Therapy) should be used on teen and child sexual offendors,

How about CBT (cock and ball torture) instead?

SplitDik (imported) wrote: Sat May 02, 2009 9:23 am How about CBT (cock and ball torture) instead?

Please Splitdik, there is a victim and an offender on this thread,

maybe, just maybe we can talk and understand, save us from the jokes for a moment, please...

loveUall

Jean

I have no sympathy for my perp, but I do forgive him, You could ask why? The more I hate him the more he still effects me, therefore its easier to let go of all the emotions as much as I can.

The major question is would I help him if he needed help, then I have to say yes.

I will not make my previous experience, make me less of a person because of it.

I understand Spilt diks comment about Cock and Ball Torture, perhaps thats would be an answer if I was full of hate, but I am not I would rather see a child sexual prediator allowed some dignaty in the aims to find a cure, for there desires, as i would rather see any criminal have Cognative Behavioural Therapy for there crimes, or counselling and perhaps a little understanding to what drives them,

The society we live in our answer is to castigate most criminals and lock them away, why do we do this, cause its easier to forget a problem than face it,

You may not agree with me, but has a survivor of sexual abuse I am allowed to have my say.

perhaps I am being too libereral

Nomorehotbutt I dont need or want an explaination from you, that explantion is for the persons you abused,

I am am happy to accept your apology.

ukeunuch (imported) wrote: Sat May 02, 2009 10:38 am I have no sympathy for my perp, but I do forgive him, You could ask why? The more I hate him the more he still effects me, therefore its easier to let go of all the emotions as much as I can.

The major question is would I help him if he needed help, then I have to say yes.

I will not make my previous experience, make me less of a person because of it.

I understand Spilt diks comment about Cock and Ball Torture, perhaps thats would be an answer if I was full of hate, but I am not I would rather see a child sexual prediator allowed some dignaty in the aims to find a cure, for there desires, as i would rather see any criminal have Cognative Behavioural Therapy for there crimes, or counselling and perhaps a little understanding to what drives them,

The society we live in our answer is to castigate most criminals and lock them away, why do we do this, cause its easier to forget a problem than face it,

You may not agree with me, but has a survivor of sexual abuse I am allowed to have my say.

perhaps I am being too libereral

Reading this, the world should ask themselves the question:

Why do the victims many times sound wiser then the people around them?

ukeunuch, I have to start my work now, sorry, just had a quick look.

In about 8 hours I will take my time to have you an answer, then it will be up to you if you let me know...did it make you feel a little better or not

I am so sorry for what has happened to you. My story should save a number of future victims

loveUall

Jean

I was molested twice, and it has had a big impact on me, giving me a sense of shame associated with sex. The person who did this to me died many years ago, but I do not want to live with hatred and shame. To address this I have befriended a man who was in jail who had himself castrated following his arrest for child molestation.. I wrote him in jail telling him my story and how I wanted to show support for his attempts to stop this monstrous behavior. He is now out of prison and is living a hard working life with no problems so far. He does not take HRT, despite problems just to make sure that he does not re-offend. I hope that my support and friendship will help him stay on the straight and narrow , so that my experience will help others avoid this ghastly experience. Hate is such a corrosive thing tto have in your heart , that this is my way of dealing with it trying to create something positive out of such evil

Milkman (imported) wrote: Sat May 02, 2009 4:07 pm I was molested twice, and it has had a big impact on me, giving me a sense of shame associated with sex. The person who did this to me died many years ago, but I do not want to live with hatred and shame. To address this I have befriended a man who was in jail who had himself castrated following his arrest for child molestation.. I wrote him in jail telling him my story and how I wanted to show support for his attempts to stop this monstrous behavior. He is now out of prison and is living a hard working life with no problems so far. He does not take HRT, despite problems just to make sure that he does not re-offend. I hope that my support and friendship will help him stay on the straight and narrow , so that my experience will help others avoid this ghastly experience. Hate is such a corrosive thing tto have in your heart , that this is my way of dealing with it trying to create something positive out of such evil

Milkman, first, please accept my regrets for what has happened to you.

And thanks for your positive way of dealing with it. They do have feelings, and maybe if you show him your pain, it will help him to understand that he should stay away from abusing children

loveUall

Jean

ukeunuch (imported) wrote: Sat May 02, 2009 10:45 am Nomorehotbutt I dont need or want an explaination from you, that explantion is for the persons you abused,

I am am happy to accept your apology.

ukeunuch, I am sorry I didn't see this message this morning. My explanation should be a warning to all of us, to save future victims and offenders

As for the persons you are pointing out, I still know them all, I still see them all and I still love them all. (Except for one as it went terribly wrong)

The oldest is 35 now and in a few days I will visit him, have him a big hug and hand him a souvenir from Vietnam. If I made any mistakes, I always told them that I would be there for them, and so I am.

Please, I do not want to offend you with this, far from that. But it is my two way ticket in this matter, a positive side and the biggest mistake of my life.

I will post a message: "Main point" If you think I will hurt you with it, please don't read it. But please believe me, I don't want to hurt.

loveUall

Jean

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Jean Op den Kamp (imported) wrote: Thu Apr 30, 2009 9:00 am his politician (female) wants to leave paedo's only two options....lifetime in prison or voluntary surgical castration..

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Two problems here:

1) Juries make mistakes, or are overjealous, and what is an innocent victim to do? Go to prison or get snipped? Some choice. I guess the best such a person could hope for would be a "hung jury". (sorry. serious issues, bad joke, but I just couldn't help it)

2) Although a bit far fetched, someone out there, who desperately wants to get snipped, and doesn't care about other consequences, might just engage in behavior that will get him arrested and convicted so that he can get a free snip job.

Anything that might possibly encourage such behavior is a bad proposal.

Insane solutions to real problems keep getting reinvented with each new brain dead generation. Intelligence seems to be shrinking faster than glaciers and ice caps.

Main Point

Posting for some time on this board, and reading other postings, I realize that we speak in riddles to many times. This one should be clear. There is a lot more to tell and anyone who wants can get answers. I will try to keep this one open and clear

I had my personal Big friend from the time I could walk. I was 13 as I found out that he wanted to die. I couldn't stop him. As I was 15 we took him to his grave.

As I was 13 I didn't even know the difference between a boy and a girl. We were well protected, yes, overprotected against anything we should and need to understand in life.

As my friend passed away, there was a big empty space in my life, and as any normal human being, I needed to understand, I needed to find out who I was. Sure I like and liked children. After what happened with my friend this was a very serious point to me. Why, what did this attraction to children mean. Looking around for answers, nobody needed to talk about it, I was not used to ask anything like this. You didn't speak about it.

In the sex-shops the Lolita - Schoolgirls - Chicken and so on were in the windows, free for every one to see. I had to wait until I became 18 to buy a Lolita

The only information I could find and hear, was sex sex and again sex. Being attracted toward children could only mean one thing...I WANTED SEX WITH THEM.

Sure I got interested in what was behind their little zippers

At that same age, I started to grow into an emotional protection as an reaction on the problems one can(will) get with an extreme high IQ. People,friends, they start to turn away from you, or you have to hide yourself.

Highly gifted, and emotional a cripple

I became aggressive is a very special way, dangerous, without showing any emotions. Any relation was doomed as I locked everyone out.

I found "Martijn" a Paedo-organization. I thought I found people who were like me, people who understood...

Later I found out that one of the friends, who I had been talking to, drinking with, got arrested for ass-fucking a six month old baby, and adding Saresta to childrens food, to get them sedated into his bed.

Why, what the hell, were was I, this was not my kind of people.

If I was together with any child, my aggression was gone, I was open and didn't need to protect. It was such a good feeling

I needed half my life, making a terrible mistake, hurting a complete family, to find out that the beginning was a mistake. I don't need children for my sexual pleasure. In fact, I am the kind of lover (also to grown-ups) who is never in that NEED. There was a problem, always when I wanted to tell some-one that I loved him(her) I got that feeling that I was lying, that there was some self-interest that I couldn't call love.

It was a dammed hard fight, to get myself out of that IQ-wheelchair.

But why the hell was I talked into I WANT SEX.

If we don't stop calling a hug to a child abuse, having them a candy equals fucking them, murder them....

There is always a new generation, what do they hear, what message do they get, and where do they end up....

Please, all child protectors, go fuck yourself with your child sex. I love them, there is no need for sex, for me, there never was.

I found my way out, (thanks a lot to this board). This moment, I feel open and free in the same way to adults. I am making friends, I am making love (something more then having sex)

It feels great, having a friend sleeping in my arms, protecting him, and knowing there is nothing from my side that needs to harm him.

I made mistakes, and I am taking full responsibility. I guess I made at least one victim. This hurts, it hurts badly. You will never find a bigger punishment for me as that feeling. Maybe, in the next days, he is reading an article in a newspaper. Maybe he gets the message. I still love him.

But I want to have you all a warning.... if we don't stop calling everything abuse, if we don't stop judging without any gradation, don't make me responsible for the victims and offenders of the new generation.

My mistakes should never have happened. But yes, it was me who made them

I bow to everyone who got hurt. I am sorry

loveUall

Jean