Unregistered (imported) wrote: Fri Mar 20, 2009 10:24 am You randomly choose several parts (or stories in the case of the archive) then you inspect them for quality. The size of the batch and the tolerance for error determines the size of the sample. For example a batch of 10,000 would require a sample size of 100 or 1% if 99%+ is the desired quality tolerance (it's actually a bit more complicated than that but for this discussion I think it will suffice). If all the samples pass the quality inspection then the batch is passed and certified for shipment. If any of the samples proves defective the procedure is to take a larger sample of the batch (usually 10%) to get a more precise picture of how many are bad parts. From the second inspection we determine whether it is worthwhile to glean out any good parts or if we should just simply scrap the whole batch and start over. If 50% or more of the original sampling fails inspection we don't bother with a follow up inspection we just scrap the whole batch and remake the parts. We use a similar method to determine if a vender sent us good parts or not.

Hi Unregistered,

Your account of QC sampling was fascinating. Purely as a matter of interest how come some parts fail and some don't? A batch of 10,000 would presumably be made on automatic machines which would do exactly the same thing every time.

For machined components would it be due to a slack tool-tip checking regime (Which is all I can think of) or what?

Regarding rewriting someone's story for them. Yes, rewriting may be a bit much but I once edited a college essay for my daughter to show her how it could be improved and once she saw the improvement she kind of got the idea and her subsequent writing was much better. Writing skills can definitely be taught (or perhaps learnt?).

Kortpeel

Paolo wrote: Fri Mar 20, 2009 11:06 am Just to point out - a lot of the older stories cannot be edited via the tools we have now, because they reside in a different database (old) run by a different script that won't "talk to" the new one. That's why you'll some pretty strange formatting, along with ones that were accepted long before I or Plix was in charge of submissions.

As I told you privat before, it is hard to work on the board not having the comfort of MS word

If I want to switch from past to present an future and vise versa, it would be great to use italics different font and so on

The board is like loverboy was joking about that old typewriter, out of this time

And several autors still love it to work for all the readers to make something out of it. Maybe some people should realize that, if they want more quality, there should be some changes, not only a counting of words and mistakes

Kortpeel (imported) wrote: Fri Mar 20, 2009 12:08 pm Hi Unregistered,

Your account of QC sampling was fascinating. Purely as a matter of interest how come some parts fail and some don't? A batch of 10,000 would presumably be made on automatic machines which would do exactly the same thing every time.

For machined components would it be due to a slack tool-tip checking regime (Which is all I can think of) or what?

Regarding rewriting someone's story for them. Yes, rewriting may be a bit much but I once edited a college essay for my daughter to show her how it could be improved and once she saw the improvement she kind of got the idea and her subsequent writing was much better. Writing skills can definitely be taught (or perhaps learnt?).

Kortpeel

I always write goot wrong!

I have a problem to make a correction to that sentence can somebody help me out (maybe a spelling checker can do the trick)

Jean Op den Kamp (imported) wrote: Fri Mar 20, 2009 12:16 pm I always write goot wrong!

I have a problem to make a correction to that sentence can somebody help me out (maybe a spelling checker can do the trick)

Did you mean: "I always write 'good' wrong," as in "I always spell 'good' incorrectly?"

I'd have thought a spell checker would help, provided you have the dictionary set to English. I can't think of an English word 'goot' so the spell checker should pick it up.

Alternatively write the story with all the 'goots' you want and then in the edit section you can replace all the 'goots' with 'good.'

Nomorehotbutt, If you write your stories as well as your posts here then they will be far more readable than the stories that I have been discussing in my posts. I never demanded perfection nor expect people to write mistake free. I only ask that their stories be easy to read and none of the ones I read the other day were. I think you will do fine.

Paolo, I am reminded of how far technology has come, so far in fact that people seem lost without modern word processors. I did all my high school English homework on a 1949 royal typewriter. If I made a mistake I either went back and used eraser tape and typed over it or I took out the paper, crumpled it up, tossed it in the wastebasket and put in a fresh sheet of paper and started over. Editing was done by putting the rough draft/manuscript on a copy stand and reading off of it while typing the changes on a new sheet of paper. Every time someone tells me about the difficulties of editing from one format to another I think back to my high school years. Today I normally copy paste a document into notepad and edit most of it there. It will do anything my old Royal will do and then some. OK that's not quite true, I could type bold by rolling up the carriage a degree on the old Royal. I also know that is a lot of extra work. My philosophy is that if a document has sufficient redeeming qualities then it should be archived until it can be fixed like an old and worthy antique in need of restoration.

Kortpeel, there are too many possible causes to discuss here, however I can give you one example. In the case of automatic screw machines, cutting tools wear out over time. The machine operator is responsible for monitoring that wear and for periodically comparing the parts to the print as they are being made to ensure compliance. If the operator does not do this properly, the machine can begin to make bad parts. In a perfect world operators would not make such mistakes and tools would never wear out. Since we do not live in a perfect world, my employer pays me to make sure our customers do not get any of those bad parts and to offer feedback to the operators and the engineering department that helps them to improve yield. In reality, the scenario I mentioned in my prior post is very rare. The typical yield for a batch of 10,000 parts is 9998 and most of the bad parts are caused by a random chip getting caught between the work piece and the cutter causing marring and galling.

Kortpeel (imported) wrote: Fri Mar 20, 2009 9:58 pm Did you mean: "I always write 'good' wrong," as in "I always spell 'good' incorrectly?"

I'd have thought a spell checker would help, provided you have the dictionary set to English. I can't think of an English word 'goot' so the spell checker should pick it up.

Alternatively write the story with all the 'goots' you want and then in the edit section you can replace all the 'goots' with 'good.'

If I say: I always write good wrong, the sentence becomes incorrect, as for this time a write good correct

So what I do want to tell you is that I always write goot wrong and if you use your spelling correcter, he fucks up the whole story

Up to me there is no correction possible for this mistake

You can try: I always write good good, but that's the fuck, I'm to stupid to do so (Or maybe my IQ is a little a problem)

Unregistered (imported) wrote: Fri Mar 20, 2009 10:38 pm Nomorehotbutt, If you write your stories as well as your posts here then they will be far more readable than the stories that I have been discussing in my posts. I never demanded perfection nor expect people to write mistake free. I only ask that their stories be easy to read and none of the ones I read the other day were. I think you will do fine.

I have to thank you for the compliments you make me, only

There is a story from me on the board, and for that section I worked harder and spend far more time to eliminate errors then I do for postings

If your way of taking samples would work without mistakes, how can it be that 100% was bad as you told. So maybe you made a mistake, maybe you insulted me, trusting on that research method of you that SUCKS

I know what you wanted to say, and yes, sometimes it is bad as it can be, no problem you make a point out of it

And I tell all the time, it is no problem if some-one hurts me, as it is my choice to stay unprotected So no offends, I only like you to see that there is a backside on the medal

So please keep posting (and sign, up talking to a noname.....)

Francis (imported) wrote: Thu Mar 19, 2009 10:54 pm There are just some people who would complain if their ass was on fire and you pissed on it to put it out - hopefully not on EA;);)

Well one thing is for sure, I will not be that one to complain as it is one of my favorite business to get a goot spank................

Kortpeel (imported) wrote: Fri Mar 20, 2009 12:08 pm Hi Unregistered,

Your account of QC sampling was fascinating. Purely as a matter of interest how come some parts fail and some don't? A batch of 10,000 would presumably be made on automatic machines which would do exactly the same thing every time.

For machined components would it be due to a slack tool-tip checking regime (Which is all I can think of) or what?

Regarding rewriting someone's story for them. Yes, rewriting may be a bit much but I once edited a college essay for my daughter to show her how it could be improved and once she saw the improvement she kind of got the idea and her subsequent writing was much better. Writing skills can definitely be taught (or perhaps learnt?).

Kortpeel

Unregistered, I also found the info about Quality Control interesting.

Try taking a sampling of only NEWER stories, ie: stuff posted only during or after 2005 or 2006. See if you still come up with the same conclusions. I am pretty sure you will not.

I've been reading stories here for a few years, and have found a handful of really poorly-written / poorly-formatted stories here too, especially in the older stuff... But in my experience, the majority of the stores are readable, and many are even good. If you like the types of topics covered in these stories, you'll not find a better collection anywhere else on the 'net!!

I've found the "Author Index" tool on the Stories page here to be very useful. Usually if I like one of a certain Author's stories, I will like their other stories.

Also, the "Alphabetical Index" tool on the Stories page can be useful especially when looking for the second (or third or beyond) parts of a story. Sometimes people forget to put their author name in on the later posts, or worse yet, put in a different name on the later posts. Unfortunately, sometimes people also leave their stories unfinished (I have seen that on ASSTR as well).

Give the stories here another chance. You may find some gems!

Years ago, the Founder of the Archive, B, posted any stories that were sent to him. He was running it alone, so he didn't time to edit them. He just posted anything that came in. Editing was out of the question. That changed when I took over, as it did when Plix took over. It still hasn't changed. I throw out a lot of stuff every day that it would still take entirely too long to edit.