Today I visited a doctor in Ho Chi Minh (Saigon)

It was a heartwarming conversation. After about ten minutes he came exactly to the point of my problem. The side-effects of testosteron like getting angry, getting scared, becoming selfish and so on, are not suppressed

by the use of ciproterone and many other medications for chemical castration, at least for several people this doesn't work

He understood that even IF my dick stayes down (doesn't) I can feel that attack of testosterone on my nature. (I got little responce about that on the board)

His advice was to bring down the dosis back to maximum 3 times 50 mgr , stop using 250mg/day. I cannot expect a lot more from chemical castration on this point.

He sure is willing to help me, but there is the Vietnamese law. I need to get the referral from my Dutch doctor (if possible in english) by email and then see him again. He will have to confer with the staff about this matter if they can accept this foreign referral as a medical indication.....

that is very close to the border. But at least he didn't just refuse, he really understands, and is willing to help, but...................

We will see

Good luck and best wishes.

I got the referral from my Dutch doctor just five minutes ago, by email. This time it was in English.

Now it will be up to the staf of the Vietnamese hospital if they allow the urologist to take this referral as an medical indication (as ordered by the Vietnamese law)

Again, we will see

loveUall

Jean

Sorry, I have to tell ..................

The referral was not good enough to pass by the vietnamese law.

But at least this doctor showed some respect. He ordered Ph**** to get me inside as he wanted to tell me how much he regrets this problem. Vietnamese people don't use sorry for every little shit, so that was maybe the reason for him to say it by vietnamese "Xin Loi"

I thank him for that, as this moment I don't even feel sad about it. This way of paying respect is a great thing. I will find my way, one way or the other, I'm only afraid that it will not be easy to find a person like him.

loveU all

Jean

Update.

Yesterday my family doctor handed me a new referral, after I explained more clearly to him how to understand my feelings (he finished the hyper sexuality part). I have to thank him, as with this referral I feel far more comfortable.

Today I went to the hospital (NL) in person. Got an appointment for 16-06 and the secretary already called me back as promised. The doctor had a view on the referral and is willing to see me. (I didn't want to wait six weeks just to get kicked out) She called me to make very sure that I understand that we will discus the matter and that this is not a promise, nor a refuse to put me on the operation list. It's a start again. I will keep you all updated

loveUall

Jean

Wish you all the best. Hope this works out. Know how it is trying to find a doctor that is understanding.

Again Hope It Works Out!!!!

I need to say thanks once more to this board. Without your information (all of you) I would never have trust androcur to start working after such a long time. I guess I would have stopped after about 3 months.

Today, delivering newspapers, I saw stinging nettles every where, young and fresh. To hell with them, this moment I don't feel like torturing myself, I am missing real people. I miss Ph**** and his family, I want to take a plane and catch one of you members at Canada.

Nothing seems to stay the same as for my feelings. I told you from Vietnam, I feel happy. I was afraid it wouldn't last as I change the climate again, but it is even getting better.

Only, I am still on 250 mg/day. I'm scared to fall back if I lower my dose

Oh and thanks to you Bobbie for your good wishes. Yeh, I would like to make this permanent. I am afraid for the long time effects of this high dose. And I don't want to go around another 40 years asking myself if it is really me, or some body else with a handful of chemicals

loveUall

Jean