ramses (imported) wrote: Fri Dec 05, 2008 10:37 am I believe radio waves are a certain frequency of EMF

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Within a cohort of 340 police officers, six incident cases of testicular cancer occurred between 1979 and 1991 (O/E 6.9; p<0.001, Poisson distribution). Occupational use of hand-held radar was the only shared risk factor among all six officers, and all routinely held the radar gun directly in close proximity to their testicles. Health effects of occupational radar use have not been widely studied, and further research into a possible association with testicular cancer is warranted. © 1993 Wiley-Liss, Inc.

During WWII there was a secret project for night attack involving tanks that carried extremely powerful arc lights in their turrets, instead of guns. The idea being that one of these tanks would be on either side of the attacking group, the light completely blinding the enemy, and the other tanks and troops would attack through the blind spot in between. Several crews were trained and it was actually deployed a couple of times, with mixed results, in France after the D-Day invasion.

Every member of a tank crew that trained or operated the arc light tanks became sterile and suffered problems ranging from simple testicular atrophy to testicular or other cancer. I became aware of this while reading an article written by the wife of one of these GIs some years back. No official findings were released but the causation seems to be from being confined inside the steel hull of the tank with the extremely strong EMF field created when the arc light was on. That would have been like being inside the cavity of a magnitron tube while it was running.

The problem that we have now is the proliferation of wireless devices. Who doesn't have a cell phone? The popular Blue Tooth headset is a RF generating device, supposedly so low powered that it causes no harm, but they are worn every waking hour. Wi-Fi, Satellite TV, other wireless networks, wireless device controllers, normal radio and video transmissions, we are bathed in a level of EM radiation, in multiple bands, to a level that was unimaginable 50 years ago. If it really can cause any problems, we're all doomed! Only time will tell.

Personally, I already have a brain tumor, and my testicles are dead anyway, so I carry my cell phone in my pocket, or on my belt, and use a wired headset while driving. When some younger person, wearing a Blue Tooth, asks why I'm so "old fashioned" I tell them, "I already have a brain tumor." I love the looks on their faces.

Evidently, there was a rash of testicle cancers from cops who sat in their cars or motorcycles with the radar gun ON and in their lap. I think that was before they had the "instrant on" radar guns.

Kortpeel (imported) wrote: Fri Dec 05, 2008 6:16 am This is a good question and it concerns me because there is a higher incidence of leukaemia in kids who grow up living close to overhead power lines.

This is just speculation of course. Meanwhile don't raise children close to overhead power lines. Just because no direct causal link between magnetic fields and leukaemia has been found doesn't mean that there isn't one.

Kortpeel

Lets see. The first 24 years of my life I lived next to several electric High tension towers. The next 15 years I lived a block away. The remaining years 2 blocks away. The family has had no cancer. Some say that the energy can fry the brain. I do not know about that if mine is fried. Many in here have meet me, so I will let them be the judge on that.

It is funny how this thread started in one direction and went in another. All the talk about the electromagnetic effects on the body from power lines, cell phones, TV's and a few thousand other things have studies. Many have studies for the studies on the studies. You can find a study to prove what ever you want to find on the effect. If seems that we just do not know what the effects are in many cases. Yes some we do know. Many things in the past were proven to be unsafe.

To the original question. If you got some of the super magnet's and large enough surface area you could do some pain full things to your balls. One thing to keep in mind. The closer the magnet's get to one another the greater the force becomes. The change in force is a very step slope. The force is the square of the distance. If I remember it right.

Kortpeel (imported) wrote: Fri Dec 05, 2008 6:16 am This is a good question and it concerns me because there is a higher incidence of leukaemia in kids who grow up living close to overhead power lines.

The haemoglobin in blood responds to magnetic fields. It probably needs a long term exposure for any effect to show itself but I for one am fairly sure that magnetic fields do have some effects on the body. If you were to put your balls into

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Kortpeel (imported) wrote: Fri Dec 05, 2008 6:16 am ime=1228353000]
a very strong magnetic field

it could slow down the flow of blood through them but it would take several years before they would cease to function.

Permanent magnets or the field from a direct current coil might even cause blockage of blood vessels with iron oxide particles. Alternatively an alternating current coil might have some heating effect.

This is just speculation of course. Meanwhile don't raise children close to overhead power lines. Just because no direct causal link between magnetic fields and leukaemia has b
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een found doesn't mean that there isn't one.

Kortpeel

I (and a number of neighbors and family) have lived next to High Voltage power lines for many years (30 plus). The lines are one house away, and there is no luekemia in or around my street. If there was a connection then one can look at the workers that take care of them for which a local news station did a report a few years ago...they said that nation wide power line workers do not get sick any more or less then normal.

IbPervert (imported) wrote: Fri Dec 05, 2008 8:28 pm I (and a number of neighbors and family) have lived next to High Voltage power lines for many years (30 plus). The lines are one house away, and there is no luekemia in or around my street. If there was a connection then one can look at the workers that take care of them for which a local news station did a report a few years ago...they said that nation wide power line workers do not get sick any more or less then normal.

Probably the power lines are off and earthed (or grounded if you prefer) when work is done on them.

Obviously not everyone is susceptible to magnetic fields. All people are different. And as I said before, no direct causal link has been found. However I can admit the possibility that a a magnetic field could tear an electron from its orbit and thus interfere with a cell division, or even some of the delicate organic chemistry that goes on in a living body. Usually the body itself will take care of it automatically. Sometimes it doesn't. That chemistry goes on so much that even a remote possibility will happen every so often. Children are more vulnerable because they are growing and so have more cell divisions.

Why take a chance? If you are responsible for a young child I'd recommend moving away from power lines. Probably nothing will happen as is almost always the case but shit does happen now and again. "Why me?" people ask when it does. Perhaps the answer is because you lived too close to a power line.

Kortpeel

bobbie (imported) wrote: Fri Dec 05, 2008 7:00 pm The force is the square of the distance. If I remember it right.

it is in reverse proportion to the square of distance.

Kortpeel (imported) wrote: Sat Dec 06, 2008 2:31 am Probably the power lines are off and earthed (or grounded if you prefer) when work is done on them.

Kortpeel

There is an episode of Modern Marvels dealing with electricity, and the power company's send workers out to work on the wires when the high voltage is going through them. The workers have to follow very strict procedures. If the high voltage lines got turned off when they were inspected they would be off a good deal of the time. Think of the Golden Gate bridge if they had to shut it down for traffic in order to paint it cars would never be able to drive on it because by the time the painters work from one side to the other its time to start over again.

Hear in San Diego the power company will shut the high voltage lines down only under certain conditions and only in key spots. Up in the Mauritians and deserts the winds can really pick up steam so if the wind is strong enough the lines can short out causing wild fires and equipment problems...but that is one of the few times they do that.

Yes I wonder what will happen when one is driving

a car powered by 4 large electric motors regardless

if the electric energy comes from hydrogen, battery, gasoline, etc.

Back in the 1950's the "Pearl Chain Effect" was described as

it was acknowledged that such fields cause protein molecules that

all have a weak + and - side to line up like a chain of pearls.

Not healthy !

Think about the cell tower a few hundred feet from a home.

High power lines governments insists are safe to live near.

The increase in broadcasting since the 1950's when just

a few radio, TV and short waves units broadcast.

Time for clothing that incorporates shielding from EMF

as well as UV ! No doubt here.

moi621 (imported) wrote: Tue Dec 09, 2008 2:54 pm Yes I wonder what will happen when one is driving

a car powered by 4 large electric motors regardless

if the electric energy comes from hydrogen, battery, gasoline, etc.

Back in the 1950's the "Pearl Chain Effect" was described as

it was acknowledged that such fields cause protein molecules that

all have a weak + and - side to line up like a chain of pearls.

Not healthy !

Think about the cell tower a few hundred feet from a home.

High power lines governments insists are safe to live near.

The increase in broadcasting since the 1950's when just

a few radio, TV and short waves units broadcast.

Time for clothing that incorporates shielding from EMF

as well as UV ! No doubt here.

I wear my aluminum foil hat everywhere!

There is so much chemical and electromagnetic, radio, and other pollution in our air, our food, whatever, from the point of conception forward, it doesn't make a lot of difference what we do. Try to minimize, sure; eliminate? Not in our world. I'm gonna get sick or die when I do, and there likely aint jack I'm going to be able to do to stop it.

moi621 (imported) wrote: Tue Dec 09, 2008 2:54 pm Yes I wonder what will happen when one is driving

a car powered by 4 large electric motors regardless

if the electric energy comes from hydrogen, battery, gasoline, etc.

Back in the 1950's the "Pearl Chain Effect" was described as

it was acknowledged that such fields cause protein molecules that

all have a weak + and - side to line up like a chain of pearls.

Not healthy !

Think about the cell tower a few hundred feet from a home.

High power lines governments insists are safe to live near.

The increase in broadcasting since the 1950's when just

a few radio, TV and short waves units broadcast.

Time for clothing that incorporates shielding from EMF

as well as UV ! No doubt here.

If there is so much electrical power from the power lines why do the people that live near them just put a big coil of wire and make it into a transformer and use the power from the power. Simple there is not enough to light a LED if you live next to the power line much less power your house.

Think about the cell tower. Do you think it is putting out very many watts? Hardly. The signals have to be very low power. They can not over lap the rang of one tower unto another by very much. If they do the number of channels will be reduced and less calls can be handled.

The magnetic effect from the motors if generated by electric or permanent magnetic fields are not strong. Just think how week the field is of magnets is. Take 2 refrigerator magnets. When they are together the force pulling them together is strong. The further the magnets get away from each other the field lessons greatly. A foot apart you can not even feel the effects. So how will a motor in the back of the car have any noticeable effect on you. Come on get real.