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Re: Artistic Ideas
Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 3:38 pm
by Blaise (imported)
balletkyle (imported) wrote: Thu Aug 14, 2008 10:28 am
it's simple to say YES and leave it at that.
however it greatly depends on the art form and the individual, their moods, emotional and physical state when making or preforming their art forms. some art comes from thinking outside the box/outside the norms.some art comes from channelling devine sources, and some come from hard work and concentration.
In my choosen art form the harder I work at it,the more I think about it the worse I am at it.for me it's best to void my mind and let the art take over my body, at times it feels like my body knows what to do so I just let it do it cause if I try to think it through I mess up. that is where the weeks/months of trainning comes in.
Yes, I think that imposing rules hinders the natural process of learning and creation. We know that scientists don’t work the way our teachers told us they work.
When I was a teenager, I enjoy solving proofs in geometry. I often dreamed solutions to proofs of theorems. I would move geometric figures in my mind. Well, the figures moved themselves in the dreams into different formations. When I was a young adult, I enjoyed solving proofs of theorems in symbolic logic. I dreamed solution to those cases though in a different way, but the solutions seemed come in dreams.
I think that a lot of learning and of creative work happens below awareness. I also experience listening to musical compositions such as chamber work or symphony in my mind. Sometimes an interruption happens and I pick up the work later in its progression.
Re: Artistic Ideas
Posted: Fri Aug 15, 2008 10:40 am
by Blaise (imported)
amahl_shukup (imported) wrote: Thu Aug 14, 2008 10:55 am
Many artists, from composers to painters, have reported exactly that. Sting has said that he is a conduit for higher spirits, that he just writes down the music. Mozart suggested much the same thing, that entire compositions would come into his head and he could even hear them...all he did was write down what he heard. That's what I was talking about in my post on consciousness and intelligence; the brain is a receiver, and our higher selves (the consciousness that makes me uniquely ME, for example) is not (I repeat, my consciousness is NOT in my brain), but rather it resides on some other plane. All that we think we know of the physical world is merely an illusion. It's a very convincing illusion, I'll give you that, but many physicists are coming to the same conclusion...in a universe that can express itself in either wave or particle form, our physical selves (in particle form) merely responds to what our higher etheric, spiritual selves (the wave form) inform us to do. I have written a few guitar compositions, and I assure you, they did not come from me, they came from somewhere else.
I enjoy reading Steve Pinker on these topics. I think that the distinction between mind and matter (Descartes ) was not necessary and introduced a lot of silliness into philosophy. It makes sense that life and mind share commonalities because they are not simply different but aspects of the same basic realities.
Re: Artistic Ideas
Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 9:32 am
by artisticlicense (imported)
Arab Nights (imported) wrote: Wed Aug 13, 2008 3:03 pm
The question is this - Are artistic creations (music, art, whatever) original with you or are they things that are just out there and you have the antennae to pick them up and present them to the world?
Thanks.
Creating things, and artistic ability has always just 'been there' for me. I see things that others don't, but I think 'presentation' requires practice and experience. I was drawing before I could write, and painting before I could ride a bicycle. Crudely, of course. But I understood depth and scale, and had the ability to try and present it as I saw it. As a child, I was always 'fiddling' with something, and curious about everything. Irritated my Dad, but my Mom encouraged it and even sent me to art classes. Today, I have too many interests!
Any 'Art' requires skill, to some degree, whether naturally occurring or learned. There are artistic abilities in everyone, but not everyone "tunes-in" to them for a host of reasons. Then there's the perception and reception of the audience.
