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Re: I Can See Paradise by the Cell Phone Light...

Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 7:15 pm
by jane_says (imported)
All I want to do is confess that I don't "get" Meat Loaf. The performer, not the delicious dinnertime treat. I have never understood what it is he's getting at. I don't get the angle he's working from. I keep getting the feeling maybe there is more to his music than I understand. Maybe it's his grand, theatrical style, I'm not sure. All I can tell is he's been around since before I was born, so there MUST be something I'm missing if people are still listening to him. And every time I bring it up I'm told "Bat Out of Hell was a great album, man".

That is all.

Re: I Can See Paradise by the Cell Phone Light...

Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 8:36 pm
by Paolo
It is a fact that "Bat out of Hell" has been used by psychiatrists as a diagnostic tool. Basically, if you don't like it or get it, you're nuts...

I have owned this album in every single form since vinyl. It's been recently remastered (again) on CD with another live track added. It's also been recorded live with the Melbourne Symphony Orchestra. The story is supposedly complete now, in a Trilogy concluding with "Bat Out of Hell 3 - The Monster's Loose".

In a nutshell, Meatloaf's basic theme is the star-crossed lovers who can never be together, or when, IF together, cannot find happiness and split - only to pursue each other "into Hell and back" if necessary.

I guess if you don't get it, though, you just don't get it.

Re: I Can See Paradise by the Cell Phone Light...

Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 8:41 pm
by Riverwind (imported)
Slammr,

I also herd that on the news, my question is how can you charge a child with child porn of themselves? OH WAIT its Florida.

Mac,

I had a cell phone for about 3 months, worst 3 months of my life, and truly the worst invention ever made. People think they can multi task by driving and talking on there damn phone. I got hit by this broad which totaled my car, a Jeep Cherokee, i was doing almost 70 miles an hour when she lifted the car into the air. The sheriff figured she was doing somewhere around a 100 or so.

You will never guess what the first thing she said to me. YEP "I was not talking on my cell phone"

Cell phones should be outlawed and these kids, well take the phone away from them, (oh my they will be the only person they know that doesn't have one, the shame of it all) fine the parents, make it a good fine, as for drivers talking on there damn phones, take them away from them, ban them from ever having one again.

River

Re: I Can See Paradise by the Cell Phone Light...

Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 6:56 am
by amahl_shukup (imported)
Recent studies have found that using a cell phone while driving distracts a driver to the same degree (or even more so in some cases) than driving drunk. Cell phone usage while driving makes one a de facto "impaired driver." I know that some people will say, "Oh that doesn't include me, I'm a good driver and can talk on the phone safely while driving." To those people I would say, "Get over yourself, you're an impaired driver."

Now the rage among young drivers is text messaging while driving. I've seen it going on in my own town. When I see a kid in a car next to me texting and driving, I lay on the horn ....LONG blasts, and it's fun to see the panic and sudden attention he or she pays to the road. I don't imagine for a moment that these kids are "scared straight" and they probably go back to text messaging...but I just like bringing a little reality back into their lives, even if for only a moment or two. Heh heh heh...

I did read recently (don't ask for the link, but I think it was in the News of the Weird weekly column) that a recent fatal car wreck, might have been in Florida but I'm not sure, the officer on the scene found the dead woman's arm a few feet from her crushed car, and her cell phone was still clutched in the hand.

I'm not sure we can un-invent the cell phone or even limit its use, any more than we have been able to un-invent the A-bomb and limit its proliferation. We'll just have to deal with it somehow and adapt.

Re: I Can See Paradise by the Cell Phone Light...

Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 9:07 am
by kristoff
amahl_shukup (imported) wrote: Sat Jul 05, 2008 6:56 am Recent studies have found that using a cell phone while driving distracts a driver to the same degree (or even more so in some cases) than driving drunk. Cell phone usage while driving makes one a de facto "impaired driver." I know that some people will say, "Oh that doesn't include me, I'm a good driver and can talk on the phone safely while driving." To those people I would say, "Get over yourself, you're an impaired driver."

Now the rage among young drivers is text messaging while driving. I've seen it going on in my own town. When I see a kid in a car next to me texting and driving, I lay on the horn ....LONG blasts, and it's fun to see the panic and sudden attention he or she pays to the road. I don't imagine for a moment that these kids are "scared straight" and they probably go back to text messaging...but I just like bringing a little reality back into their lives, even if for only a moment or two. Heh heh heh...

I did read recently (don't ask for the link, but I think it was in the News of the Weird weekly column) that a recent fatal car wreck, might have been in Florida but I'm not sure, the officer on the scene found the dead woman's arm a few feet from her crushed car, and her cell phone was still clutched in the hand.

I'm not sure we can un-invent the cell phone or even limit its use, any more than we have been able to un-invent the A-bomb and limit its proliferation. We'll just have to deal with it somehow and adapt.

The idiots will cull themselves from the gene-pool. It may not necessarily be a bad thing. I am already removed from the gene pool (although I do have 3 kids), so I guess that makes it OK for me to cruise the internet while driving....

Re: I Can See Paradise by the Cell Phone Light...

Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 11:13 am
by A-1 (imported)
kristoff wrote: Sat Jul 05, 2008 9:07 am The idiots will cull themselves from the gene-pool. It may not necessarily be a bad thing. I am already removed from the gene pool (although I do have 3 kids), so I guess that makes it OK for me to cruise the internet while driving....

Not really.

It is possible that you could take somebody out of the gene pool who has not had a chance to learn to swim.

I am sure that I would rather have somebody talking on a cell phone while driving than having sex while driving. However, at this site that would not be a problem.

As mentioned before, in this age the young people have much better, shall we say 'tools' to use than we did as adolescents. However, I cannot see them getting more pleasure. That is just not how I remember the 60's & early 70's.

No matter what the age you are now, the hardest part of living are those years in which one 'becomes' an adult. No matter what your circumstances it ain't easy and if you escape those years without major crises for whatever reason those crises always re-visit you in a mid-life crisis. The craizer you are as a young person the saner you are as an adult, but the saner you were as a young person the harder your mid-life crisis is, is usually the rule.

...just gives one who has had an uneventful life something to look forward to, I guess. 🤷 😄

Re: I Can See Paradise by the Cell Phone Light...

Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 12:55 pm
by Riverwind (imported)
You could put a device that shuts down the phone when in a moving car. Make it a law, have a big big fine if you don't comply.

River

Re: I Can See Paradise by the Cell Phone Light...

Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 5:36 pm
by A-1 (imported)
Riverwind (imported) wrote: Sat Jul 05, 2008 12:55 pm You could put a device that shuts down the phone when in a moving car. Make it a law, have a big big fine if you don't comply.

River

...maybe a chastity device installed in car seats that has to be fastened before the car starts would stop sex in cars, too.

The way that I see it such laws are impossible to enforce and are an invasion of privacy much like seatbelt laws.

This seems to be the cause dujour, however. Funny, nobody has mentioned how pilots talk on radios while flying aircraft.

If one has a headset on I don't see how a cell phone is any worse than a CB radio, Breaker, Breaker, good buddy! Or, an FM radio (like the police use) or any other such communication device.

Really, it's not any different than approving of heterosexuality while outlawing homosexuality, at least in principle.

...it is just so much bullshit and another reason to alienate people...

Re: I Can See Paradise by the Cell Phone Light...

Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 6:50 pm
by Riverwind (imported)
A-1 (imported) wrote: Sat Jul 05, 2008 5:36 pm ...maybe a chastity device installed in car seats that has to be fastened before the car starts would stop sex in cars, too.

The way that I see it such laws are impossible to enforce and are an invasion of privacy much like seatbelt laws.

This seems to be the cause dujour, however. Funny, nobody has mentioned how pilots talk on radios while flying aircraft.

If one has a headset on I don't see how a cell phone is any worse than a CB radio, Breaker, Breaker, good buddy! Or, an FM radio (like the police use) or any other such communication device.

Really, it's not any different than approving of heterosexuality while outlawing homosexuality, at least in principle.

...it is just so much bullshit and another reason to alienate people...

You may be right, but you don't hear of flying aircraft doing loop d loops because he is talking to the traffic controller or truckers running over cars because were to busy saying breaker breaker. I think you might have a different point of view after you have been rear ended at 100 ph. It does give you a little different view of the world.

OBTW NY has a law on talking and driving at the same time, other states will follow, and your right laws like this alienate people but like drunk drivers we would prefer they did not drink and drive or talk and drive both have about the same danger level.

River

Re: I Can See Paradise by the Cell Phone Light...

Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 7:49 am
by A-1 (imported)
Riverwind (imported) wrote: Sat Jul 05, 2008 6:50 pm You may be right, but you don't hear of flying aircraft doing loop d loops because he is talking to the traffic controller or truckers running over cars because were to busy saying breaker breaker. I think you might have a different point of view after you have been rear ended at 100 ph. It does give you a little different view of the world.

OBTW NY has a law on talking and driving at the same time, other states will follow, and your right laws like this alienate people but like drunk drivers we would prefer they did not drink and drive or talk and drive both have about the same danger level.

River

There is a difference between a distracting conversation and mind altering substances like alcohol regarding to recovery times from their effects. In addition, cruise control in an automobile and an automatic pilot in an aircraft are two entirely different things.

I will say that an automatic pilot does not have to follow a roadway designed by a human to avert disaster and that there are no trees growing under 2000 feet from the ground, however, occasionally there may be a building...

However, asking you and I to accurately remember our youth is a TALL order, but I am sure that you can remember the time when your actions of youth were deemed reckless and you as I have probably said more than once that, "youth is wasted on the young".

We have became what we ridiculed as adolescents. It is just the way of life, River. Just humanity being visited upon yet another generation...

Paolo may remember the small car that was "sandwiched" between two semi-trucks on a local Interstate highway killing all abord by crush and fry during some construction not too long ago.

...it was not a pretty sight on the front page of the newspaper...

...neither of the semi-drivers was a teenager nor did they have cell phones that I know about.

...I do remember a story of a person telling their loved one goodbye via a cell phone when they saw an unavoidable traffic accident that they were about to have....which incidentally was not their fault...