mrt (imported) wrote: Sun May 18, 2008 4:29 pm It might be of value to say that Chemical Castration past 6 months can have perminant effects. Or is that Hormone use???

Anyone know what the average is?

I don't think there is any published average period of chemical castration when the effects become irreversable.

But here is 1 datum point from my own experience. My first time with chemical castration started in December 2005. I experimented different dosages from 25 mg to 200 mg of Androcur per day. Later on, I added Tamoxifen and that quickly shut down my libido, so much so that I got scared of the complete lack of sexual thoughts or desires. So, I slowly weaned myself off. I was completely off of any hormone drugs on day 253, i.e., about 8 months.

I slowly regained function, and on day 288, had my first sexual encounter without any problems.

Now, did my testes recover 100% on the inside? I think not. That is because now, 2 months into my 3rd round of chemical castration (again with the combination of Androcur + Tamoxifen), I feel the effect much faster, on a much lower dosage. My testes shrank significantly and very quickly.

Of course, as they say, everybody's mileage is different.

so its only a few weeks since i posted this ? and a weird development has occured. In the last week or so i have notice more breast development, havent really had any increase since the intial burst about 4 or 5 months ago.

So other than blood work how do you know if you are at castration level?

When I was on it, I had ZERO ability to get an erection, couldn't if I tried...

well i didnt get the blood done 2 weeks ago when i wanted to because at the last minute i had to go back forth between NY & LA rescheduled for this week.

I have only had sex once since being on the drugs, used to get off at least once a day. When i did have sex which was a few weeks ago, took about an hour to orgasm and never reached a full erection. It was virtually dry. Dont have night time errections at all. But i think it does all come down to the blood test

DavidB (imported) wrote: Sat Jun 07, 2008 1:13 pm so its only a few weeks since i posted this ? and a weird development has occured. In the last week or so i have notice more breast development, havent really had any increase since the intial burst about 4 or 5 months ago.

I did a trial of androcur seven years ago and developed lower energy levels within a few weeks. Prior to treatment I was doing quite a bit of aroebic excercise and did not notice any breast developement. Of course genetics play a major role in the individual effects of castration. However, as with just about any other health issue, diet and excercise are going to have a huge influence on your response to a reduction in testosterone.

so i finally got the blood work, my T-Level is 41 so I am pretty sure that is castrate level. My Globulin was a little low, my A/G Ratio was a little high (no idea what this is) and my RBC was a little low (also no clue what this is) The only thing my Doc was concered about was how low my T Level was, didnt bother telling him thats what i wanted.

DavidB (imported) wrote: Thu Jul 17, 2008 12:59 pm so i finally got the blood work, my T-Level is 41 so I am pretty sure that is castrate level. My Globulin was a little low, my A/G Ratio was a little high (no idea what this is) and my RBC was a little low (also no clue what this is) The only thing my Doc was concered about was how low my T Level was, didnt bother telling him thats what i wanted.

David, You are developing a case of anemia, i.e., low red blood cell (RBC) count. Low hemoglobulin is more or less the same thing. (This often happens to menstrating women.) If your T continues at the low levels that you got, anemia would probably get worse. You should watch how low they got, because it could be dangerous as well.

I had the same conditions and the doctor put me on an iron supplement for the past year or so. I am borderline now.

David,

Does your doctor know about your chemical castration play? It sounds like he doesn't if he was surprised at a T level of 41. I don't know what range your lab uses, but if it at all similar to what my lab uses, 41 is at a castrate level. I'm surprised that he apparently recognized that but didn't seem to do anything about it unless you didn't mention that.

two things, 1 at the time i didnt tell him i was taking the drugs, but did tell him, i liked the low t levels, he was fine with that. but then 6 months later the really fun started.

I was diagnosed with Kidney Cancer. told them about the drugs, they said it had no relationship, but that i should stop during a time of recovery.

I have been off the drugs for about 6 months now. and I am pleased to say that although my t level is up to 300 things are not working properly.

I still barely get night erection, have little to no interest in sex, and can not maintain much less get fully erect. and when i do its small and soft.

I took me over an hour and a half to reach orgasm the other day.

So i am pretty happy right now.

Dave

Yikes sorry to hear about the cancer. I had levels of 300 and I was pretty asexual there. Some men function better at low levels then others.

Get better! And glad your doctor knows now he/she can keep an eye on the labs to make sure you stay healthy if you go forward.