Grumpy Old Men: Maybe It's A Question of Testosterone

[IbPervert (imported)]

I suspect that low T could be behind my Chronic depression. Over the last couple of years I have gotten grumpier more depressed etc...it has gotten so bad that I cant even work anymore.

I did save the article for my personal collection, and will talk to my head Doctor about it next time i see him.

[gpb3aol (imported)]

I have a couple of comments.

Quote from earlier post:

We really have no understanding of the relationship between T and prostate cancer. All we know is that castration slows the growth of exisiting prostate cancer and seems to prevent non-existing cancer from ever developing.

I believe most doctors believe T feeds cancers of the prostate. So no misundersatnding there I think.

Second. I've been off T (I'm very low T) for almost three months and I'm not grumpy. I fact, I seem to be much more calm and easy to get along with than I was before.

I think one can't generalize, all people are different.

Pauline.

[BossTamsin (imported)]

I have a couple of comments.

Quote from earlier post:

We really have no understanding of the relationship between T and prostate cancer. All we know is that castration slows the growth of exisiting prostate cancer and seems to prevent

non-existing cancer from ever developing.

I believe most doctors believe T feeds cancers of the prostate. So no misundersatnding there I think.

Second. I've been off T (I'm very low T) for almost three months and I'm not grumpy. I fact, I seem to be much more calm and easy to get along with than I was before.

I think one c

an't generalize, all people are different.

Pauline.

Agreed, everyone is different.

That said, just because cancers of the prostate feed off testosterone does not mean that testosterone causes those cancers. Babies feed off of breast milk, but that does not mean breast milk causes babies.

Cancer is a very difficult thing to pin down. A large portion of it may be genetic, with little that the traditional recommendations of eating right and exercising can do to prevent it. With no research in this area, it may well be that eunuchs and TGs experience the same rate of prostate tumor occurance, however with no testosterone in their systems, the tumors may not ever grow to the point of being

noticed or becoming a problem.

Conversely, one may eat right, get plenty of exercise, abstain from drinking, smoking, or any other high-risk activity, and still wind up dying from some form of cancer.

[plix (imported)]

Agreed, everyone is different.

That said, just because cancers of the prostate feed off testosterone does not mean that testosterone causes those cancers. Babies feed off of breast milk, but that does not mean breast milk causes babies.

Cancer is a very difficult thing to pin down. A large portion of it may be genetic, with little that the traditional recommendations of eating right and exercising can do to prevent it. With no research in this area, it may well be that eunuchs and TGs experience the same rate of prostate tumor occurance, however with no testosterone in their systems, the tumors may not ever grow to the point of being

noticed or becoming a problem.

Conversely, one may

eat right, get plenty of exercise, a

bstain from drinking, smoking, or any other high-risk a

ctivity, and still wind up dying from some form of cancer.

And the reverse is also true. There are people who eat like shit, sit around playing WoW all day, smoke 2 packs a day and drink a 6 pack a day, and live to be 90. Even smoking is no guarantee of health problems. There are heavy smokers who have lived to be 90 and died from natural causes. My own father has smoked for almost 40 years and still has no known major smoking-related health problems (by major I mean things worse than high blood pressure, etc.).

It really all comes down to genes I think. And I think that as technology continues to improve, we are going to discover that genes influence a lot more than we think.

[IbPervert (imported)]

Agreed, everyone is different.

That said, just because cancers of the prostate feed off testosterone does not mean that testosterone causes those cancers. Babies feed off of breast milk, but that does not mean breast milk causes babies.

I read about a study in which they looked at the prostrates of older deceased males and made the determination that eventually all males get cancer of the prostrate. They said usually it is not a problem because other health issues cause death before it does. I read this a number of years ago

[IbPervert (imported)]

Believe me!!! I myself neither fall asleep after dinner ever nor do I snap at everyone. In fact I'm very well known for my congeniality, smiles and level headedness. Yes every so often (maybe once a month) I will get very pissed at something or other but most people do. I have no pot belly nor am I much overweight. I do have a family history of type two diabetes and was told that I have hyperglycemia (210) the other day. I am fifty years old and am actually the last of my siblings (of which I am the oldest) to have been diagnosed with that. I actually thought for reason that that probably had bypassed me and so I wasn't being careful how I ate. I am also the only one that is not bald which may have been making me feel that I wasn't getting any older. What I'm getting at is that I really do seriously have issues with all these frivolous claims that these testosterone sales people keep making. Why are eunuchs such as myself (since I have always had very low testosterone) known for having the "eunuch calm" and yet there is this claim that keeps popping up about low testosterone making somebody grouchy? It absolutely does not make any sense whatsoever.

I must ask...in the days, weeks and months after you became a eunuch how did you do?

Perhaps, it is due to the notion of going cold turkey off of T that kept you from showing signs. The issues mentioned in the article could be due to a slow decline of T and not just a complete loss of it. Lets face it i bet they did not think of studying the effects of slow loss of T versus rapid loss.