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Re: Feel like I screwed up today's visit with the university endocrinologist

Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 6:35 am
by Danya (imported)
Hi Plix,

I agree with your general analysis of my points but I might weight things slightly differently. I'll have more of a response by the weekend. I've been sick this week and probably won't have the energy for it now by the time I get home from work.

I've got to say I really appreciate all the time and thoughtfulness you put into this. You speak from your own explorations and difficulties and that makes your input very valuable.

Many thanks, young friend.

-Danya

Re: Feel like I screwed up today's visit with the university endocrinologist

Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 6:27 pm
by Danya (imported)
Yo Plix, and others out there,

My cold finally left me today and my asthma is much better. Both of these were with me when I saw the endocrinologist. Feeling sick didn't help my mental state after the visit. Now, I'm feeling very upbeat about the whole situation.

My best friend and I always go out for dinner on Valentine's Day. So tonight we will be heading to a local restaurant. She didn't want to send my her Valentine's Day card because she wants to see how I react when I open it! Oh boy, I can see my tears starting to flow! :-)

I'll still write more about your response, Plix, by the weekend. Any differences I have with your interpretation are minor in the overall picture. In a way, when I respond to people here, it's like I'm having an actual conversation. Even more so when it's sharing thoughts and feelings.

-Danya

Re: Feel like I screwed up today's visit with the university endocrinologist

Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 6:29 pm
by Danya (imported)
Ah, one more note for MrT.

MLF #1 clearly understands that I am still very much attracted to men and that there is no potential for an intimate, romantic-type of relationship between us. We love each other none the less!

-Danya

Re: Feel like I screwed up today's visit with the university endocrinologist

Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 2:48 pm
by mrt (imported)
I think its great that you have a "date" for V day. Oh, yeah I get the difference in love and L O V E! ;)

Does MLGF#1 drive a motocycle? I had an interesting experience with leather clad motorcycle lesbain women. Some day when your older I'll tell you ;)

I wish I had posted Plix's last message. From what I've read I think he makes a (Brilliant) good case that you might well be a "traditional" transexual. Ie with one of the two more popular genders.

I understand your points on SRS costs and such. And I don't disagree that this is not everything but if its money... Can I ask? What insurance do you have? There are some that cover SRS (but not cosmetic surgery face, breast etc)

If I remember right in MN its Medica (Unless they changed?)

Re: Feel like I screwed up today's visit with the university endocrinologist

Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 4:37 pm
by Danya (imported)
Yes, my insurance considers the university gender clinic to be out of network. This means there's an entirely separate, and higher by $1,000 under my plan, maximum annual out-of-pocket expense. It does mean that they should still pay 40% of therapy, treatments and surgery. This does not, of course, include electrolysis costs. Not to mention an entire new wardrobe! :-)

All of this is still very new to me and I'm spending a lot of time reading up on it. Being in my 50s, I wonder if there is any point in totally transitioning. I think that will be what I would find ideal. There are certainly older individuals than me who have totally transitioned M2F. That does not necessarily mean that's the practical answer for me. An intermediate, eunuch-type solution with some feminization may be very fine. The more I read about all this the more complex the issues involved seem. The gender continuum really does exist and even many young people struggle with where they fit on it.

I read the stories of many younger people who have transitioned M2F in their late teens and 20's and I feel a little sad. I don't feel that way long. Afterall, I've been very fortunate in my life in many ways. Yet I still wonder where I'd be today if I'd grown up in a different time and place, and with a different family.

I want to say one thing about my childhood to be certain people understand this part. I've stated that I was an emotionally abandoned child, my parents being for all intents and purposes not present in any way that I needed them.

What's also involved is that I had no childhood at all. I was always the little adult, talking my mother out of committing suicide, for example. Raising my youngest brother. I spent gift money from my grandparents to buy things for my mother instead of for me. This really angered my grandmother and she was right on there. I never did any sexual exploration, never dated, not even learning how to masturbate until I was about 22. I never rebelled as I was the perfect child. That's who I felt I had to be to survive. There are many other examples of the 'not a child' deal but they'd just be variations on this same stuff.

I'm not saying this to get sympathy. Many years ago I forgave my parents, told them I loved them and essentially let go of the past.

This 'never a child' stuff, though, severely delayed my discovering who I really am (because I'd never developed the skills needed) and has continued to contribute to this delay in self-understanding up until now. A crucial role of childhood is self-exploration and discovery of where you fit in the scheme of things. With no childhood, all I felt was I didn't fit in at all. Then I became an adult and the accompanying responsibilities got in the way of that child ever developing.

So it's taken me decades to get to the spot where I'm truly happy with who I am becoming, whatever the final package looks like. I never imagined I could be this happy and totally comfortable with myself.

I've got to say, too, that while I am very happy it doesn't mean there are never doubts. Parts of this process are down right scary at times, although I generally don't let those feelings stop me for long. What ever transition I wind up doing, anywhere from some expression of female eunuch to M2F, there are major changes in my life coming.

-Danya

Re: Feel like I screwed up today's visit with the university endocrinologist

Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 4:39 pm
by Danya (imported)
No, MrT, my lesbian friend doesn't drive a motorcycle! I love riding on them, though.

Re: Feel like I screwed up today's visit with the university endocrinologist

Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 4:58 pm
by Danya (imported)
I'll just make a few comments on Plix's well-reasoned reactions to my list of 12 reasons why I've concluded I'm M2F. I'll remind you that I may never transition beyond M2FE (I may be the first to use this :-) - male to female eunuch!).

Plix finds 12 to be convincing. I view 10 as an expression of 12. Namely, when I had normal testosterone and more typical male responses (and identified as gay), that fact that I never mentally undressed a male or had even the slightest interest in doing so shows my true attraction was not male to male.

The fact that I now love doing this on low T bolsters the M2F (female wanting to mentally undress male) case in my mind.

I really appreciate everyone's feedback. You folks are terrific!

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Danya (imported) wrote: Wed Feb 13, 2008 4:13 pm 10. I've recently done things I've never cared at all about in the past. Like mentally undressing the young married guy at the restaurant Saturday while ignoring my good friend. I've always consider this really rude behavior. OK, I was being rude but it was such a new and enjoyable thing I just couldn't help myself. I did apologize to my friend who said he understood. BTW, I've never mentally undressed anyone, male or female, ever before.

12. So, despite being chemically castrated, I'm more interested in sex than ever but in a very new, different and extremely satisfying way. I can make someone with a sex drive very happy and it turns out I've still got a sex drive myself, only better and different than before. I don't have to orgasm to feel very satisfied.
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-Danya

Re: Feel like I screwed up today's visit with the university endocrinologist

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 5:29 pm
by Danya (imported)
I saw my gender therapist yesterday, dressed as I am in the picture. She didn't recognize me when she walked by, looking in my direction!

I spoke to her about my experience with the clinic endocrinologist. She said it was standard proceedure for the endo to consult with 'her' staff before proceeding. Turns out my therapist is part of that staff.

My therapist thought it was a great idea to write a letter to the endo explaining important factors I'd left out of our discussion. Like the fact that my father had smoke 4 - 5 packs of cigarettes a day before his first heart attack and subsequent strokes. They'll still consider heart attack and stroke risk factors for me but I hope they will agree that the risks were greatly aggravated for my father. I've never smoked.

I'll also discuss how very motivated I am when I go after something (for example, earning a PhD full-time while holding down a full-time research position) and the therapist will back me up. I have no intention of questioning the endo's judgement. She is being cautious just as she should be. I simply want to make the point that I want to work together to make some estrogen treatment work. In the end, I may myself decide that the risk of estrogen is too high. I'm not sure where that will leave me, but I'll figure that out tomorrow!

-Danya