Psychologists: Gays shouldn't be advised to change

[OneBallBoi (imported)]

Just to confirm those with wondering minds who want to point the finger. Yes I do live with Bobbie. We are both Eunuchs. And the point is.. Gee, the last time I had a hard on was 5 years ago.. So to say..... There is no way that we have an active Homosexual relationship. I just wanted to clear up any suspicions of those who thnk they have to know everything and point the fingers without proper information. So gossip and rumor all you want..This forum and the chat room are full of hypocrites. I don't have to say three words anywhere and it is immediately repeated to Bobbie and the thought I blew it out of proportion. You are a bunch of hypocrites.. This will be the last post that I make on this message board for a long time and I have already made my last visit to the chat for a long time. You people repulse me. I am just going to take a long retirement from posting here and the chatroom, sorry but people have pushed me to it.

[jemagirl (imported)]

Just to confirm those with wondering minds who want to point the finger. Yes I do live with Bobbie. We are both Eunuchs. And the point is.. Gee, the last time I had a hard on was 5 years ago.. So to say..... There is no way that we have an active Homosexual relationship. I just wanted to clear up any suspicions of those who thnk they have to know everything and point the fingers without proper information. So gossip and rumor all you want..This forum and the chat room are full of hypocrites. I don't have to say three words anywhere and it is immediately repeated to Bobbie and the thought I blew it out of proportion. You are a bunch of hypocrites.. This will be the last post that I make on this message board for a long time and I have already made my last visit to the chat for a long time. You people repulse me. I am just going to take a long retirement from posting here and the chatroom, sorry but people have pushed me to it.

OneBallBoi,

As far as I can see no one here is attacking you, so much as we are questioning your interpretation of the bible. If you don't want your views to be debated by others why are you posting them on a discussion board?

My philosophy is live and let live. I believe in tolerance and I celebrate diversity. So if people want to be Christian, Jewish, Muslim, Buddhist, atheist, agnostic, gnostic, pagan, gay, straight, bi, lesbian, transgender, transsexual, transhuman or what ever else... that's all fine with me.

I'm pretty much OK with most things. I'm OK with your being with Bobbie and I don't care if you have an active sex life or not. That's totally up to you. And if you want to believe that god condemns gay sex that is your call too. However if you are putting the point of view that god is against gay sex on the message board, then I am going to be one of the people responding negatively to that point of view.

Please understand that it is not you that I am attacking. I have heard everyone from Jerry Falwell to reverend Fred Phelps preaching against gays and lesbians, and telling us we will all burn in hell. The catholic church persecuted us since the middle ages, and yet we are still here! In some countries people are still executed for being gay, but there are still gay people.

If god is all knowing, all powerful and all good and gay is so bad why does gayness still exist? Why does it exist in nature for that matter? I mean one could make the argument that our task is to resist temptation here on earth to be rewarded in heaven, but what about the gay sheep? If they resist gay sheep sex do they get to go to heaven as well? And if gay is so bad, why does the bible speak of christians as sheep? I'm sorry but if god is so offended by gayness picking sheep as the metaphor for flocks of christians was.... I don't want to say a bad choice, but can we just say it wasn't a great choice?

All throughout human history there have been people who are sexually attracted to members of their own sex. So what has all this religious condemnation and persecution accomplished? From what I can see it hasn't done a dam bit of good for anyone. I just see a lot of people hating other people and those people in turn hating themselves.

So I will tolerate you but I will not let your post go unanswered.

[bobover3 (imported)]

OneBallBoi, people would only "point the fingers" if they thought homosexuality was blameworthy. You're the only one here I know of that feels that way. Why would you feel ashamed of loving someone?

As for your relationship with Bobbie, which I hadn't heard of until you mentioned it, and which I still don't care about, it shows you still need another person in your life. Good for you! It's love that matters, not how that love is expressed, or even not expressed.

I feel sad that you've given so much of your life to denying your own best nature. You've the right to live as you choose, but please don't ask others to follow you down the road of guilt and self-hatred. We, too, have the same right you do, to live as we choose.

[OneBallBoi (imported)]

OneBallBoi,

As far as I can see no one here is attacking you, so much as we are questioning your interpretation of the bible. If you don't want your views to be debated by others why are you posting them on a discussion board?

I was privately challeneged that I was a activity practicing homosexual claiming to be a Christian and these two things are opposites.. Since one person challenged me, I figured far more were thinking but not saying as I have learned in recent that I am the center of gossip in the chat room regularly. So I clarified my position publically so all would know. I am a Eunuch. I haven't hard an erection in over 4 years, so how can I be a actiive practicing homosexual. I can't.

[bobover3 (imported)]

There have been millions of Christians throughout history who were also homosexuals. Whether they were "actively practicing" is irrelevant, since their God knew what was in their hearts. You're no hypocrite, though. You've caused incalculable pain to yourself through your sincerity and consistency. I can only wonder what sort of God would demand that of you.