birth control pills

[devi (imported)]

I have tits because I used birth control pills for only 2 weeks. And it was long (years) before I became a eunuch.

You may have had very low testosterone to begin with, due to undersized testicles and then with the added estradiol it tipped the balance in favor toward feminization. I do think that it would be possible since I myself have had partial breasts since high school with no hormones. Probably if a girlfriend had have given some of her prescription I'd have had a totally different early adult life. Or if I had have posessed the genes for large breasts I would have had to go ahead and do like Dolly Parton. I think she said that she really didn't want them but she couldn't anything about them at the time and that if you can't hide them then flaunt them. God, I don't like being leered at but a lot of women simply look straight ahead and take it with a grain of salt. Glad I don't have to that.

[nullorchis (imported)]

I just read of a new drug being tested that does not reduce testosterone levels but that blocks absorption of testosterone by cancerous prostate cells. Now I can't find the article but will look for it to verify this info. It passed initial tests with 43% success in reducing cancer cells in men who were not responding to existing anti-androgen therapy. As a fringe benefit normal virility is not adversely affected since this drug does not decrease testosterone production or prevent normal testosterone from being utilized in a normal manner; this drug just blocks testosterone (and its derivatives) from being used as "food" by cancer cells.

It apparently is not a birth control drug either as it does not alter or affect the little sperm guys or their DNA.

The important thing to note here is that should this drug replace existing drugs, the number of drugs that are available to be used as anti-androgens could decrease. There would be less options for becoming chemically castrate. But that could be many years away.

[HWFrank8 (imported)]

Are the effects of taking estrogen and antiandrogens reversible? Like if I start, but after 2 or 3 months change my mind, will things go back to how they were before? Also, do both the testicles and penis shrink or just one.

[kristoff]

Are the effects of taking estrogen and antiandrogens reversible? Like if I start, but after 2 or 3 months change my mind, will things go back to how they were before? Also, do both the testicles and penis shrink or just one.

After 2 or 3 months, most any effects should be reversible.

[_g (imported)]

Your body produces estrogen in the adrenal gland. That is normal. It also produces testosterone. When the male hormones become lesser in the body the female ones can be more dominant. That would be the reason for the breast development. Not the birth control pills. The pills are only in the body for day or so if I remember right. Think that is why the female has to take them every day of the month for the effect to keep working.

You taking 2 weeks of pills years ago will have no effect on your breast development many years later. It just does not happen that way.

Just what is "hyper sensitive to estrogen"?

How do you know you have this?

How is this tested for?

After I took the estrogen I could feel the breast gland and as when my T decreased the breast jest started growing. As to being Hyper sensitive to estrogen all my Grand Mothers suffered virginal breast hypertrophy, over wise know as gigantomastia, very large breasts.

[devi (imported)]

Antiandrogen + Estradiol + Time = Gynomastia. Don't know the quantities though.

[transward (imported)]

After 2 or 3 months, most any effects should be reversible.

At three months on estrogen some trans women are starting to get the development of breast buds (the swelling of milk ducts) and enlargement of the nipple. When hormones are stopped at that point, any fat deposits that have formed will likely be reabsorbed, but the buds and the larger nipples do not always disappear. This is obviously more obvious if the person is thin.

This is a fairly common situation when the desire to transition is libido driven. They take hormones and blockers for a few months (three is typical.) The hormones decrease libido which eliminates the desire to transition, so they go off hormones. Several I know who went through this process were unhappy with the enlarged nipple and knot underneath that remained even a couple of years later.

Transward

[butcherbaby (imported)]

This thread answered my question which was the main reason for my registration partly.

I think my desire to take drugs to experience my female side is libido-driven but I'm obsessed with this thought and I'm concering to just try it but your last commet scared me because I'm 24 & thin.

What if I just would take estrogen alone or herbs? Is it still possible that I have to live with enlarged nipples after that?

Which changes could occour if my body would respond unexpectedly good? Is breast-enlargement the first thing that starts to change or are there others aswell (which are more likely to be reversible)

My male-ego is not that big that I would mind that my pubic-hair, ass would look a little bit female or that my cock would shrink a bit (ok temporarily would be better ) but I'm afraid of changes that would tell others that there must be something going on - like engorged nipples.

is this development-stage likely to receede if the treatment is stopped (but that is approcimately what I'm looking after):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFNA4dIBvNY

[_g (imported)]

clip......

What if I just would take estrogen alone or herbs? Is it still possible that I have to live with enlarged nipples after that?

Yes but it all depends on your sensitivity to hormones.

Which changes could occour if my body would respond unexpectedly good? Is breast-enlargement the first thing that starts to change or are there others aswell (which are more likely to be reversible)

My male-ego is not that big that I would mind that my pubic-hair, ass would look a little bit female or that my cock would shrink a bit (ok temporarily would be better ) but I'm afraid of changes that would tell others that there must be something going on - like engorged nipples.

Yes your nipples could become poky, but your cock would not shrink, in a week, or even a month. The longer you take estrogen the more changes you will have and the less temporary the changes will become. Once you stop and your T returns your ass would go back to what it was but if you have nipple enlargement and mammary gland development that will not go away but the breast fat would.

[butcherbaby (imported)]

Your answers are very helpful and I think that I know what awaits me but although I know that a full transistion would not be tolerated by my male-ego and social-networks my twisted mind treis to force me to try it.

the luckiest situation I can run into is that I get aware o fthe full loss of the libido hits me before irreversible changes start to occur....

Whats happens if I take just estrogens or pyhto estrogens? Do the changes only take place at a slower pace or is this just wasted time? Or is the male libido not as influenced like it would be by the use of anti.androgenes?

besides: I've taken some hrt-supplements from my mother years ago for just a few days and my semen got almost clear from it after two pills. That scared me off since I would not become infertile - but I think that was just temporary effect although it took a few weeks after I stopped taking the pills before the amount of my semen was back to normal...