Is it possible? Reversal of castration?

[kizahakan (imported)]

Dear All,

Though Im also in pharmaceutical industry Im neither a doctor or a pharmacist so Id like to share my 2 questions with you;

1- Is it possible to gain the reproduction of T Hormones after chemical castration? I mean; is there a time limit as lets say after 6 months of Androcur therapy if you stop taking it and then start taking Testesterone Hormones, can the balls start functioning again?

2- Have anyone heard about testiscular transplant? I mean, after remobal or testicles, is it possible to transplant new ones?

Greetings to all from istanbul

[erikboy (imported)]

Dear All,

Though Im also in pharmaceutical industry Im neither a doctor or a pharmacist so Id like to share my 2 questions with you;

1- Is it possible to gain the reproduction of T Hormones after chemical castration? I mean; is there a time limit as lets say after 6 months of Androcur therapy if you stop taking it and then start taking Testesterone Hormones, can the balls start functioning again?

2- Have anyone heard about testiscular transplant? I mean, after remobal or testicles, is it possible to transplant new ones?

Greetings to all from istanbul

1. Probably some function of testes would restore after 6 months of chemical castration. But, as Andrew once said YMWV (Your Mileage Would Vary), it is highly individual how much of function would restore. It is a great unknown!

2. I have heard about it. Was it one experimental transplation done on twin brothers? Could anyone remember? I think it was successful. Othervise testicle transplantations are not done because of ethical reasons, not technical. Technically it shouldn't be too complicated if cord has not atrophied completely.

[mrt (imported)]

6 Months is the magic number that we throw around that says "past this things change that may not be reverse-able" so if you want to play around don't go past that and expect to return to whatever you had before. Taking Testosterone after Andrcur won't start your testicles up again. It will keep them shut off. The only way to go from off to on again is to stop taking Addrcur and wait and wait and wait for the testes to start working again. There is a good book about this called "Juicier" by the wife of a Baseball steroid cheater. She has a few pictures in it of a very depressed and vegged out guy waiting for his testicles to start working again. NO fun... And from what I gather reading this book his Testicles were screwed up and remained atrophied and tiny. Remember if you fool around with hormones like testosterone it also shuts off your testicles. And being in the "off" mode for more then 6 months tends to atrophy them. And the longer they atrophy the less likely they are to ever come back.

Transplants of any part of the body mean a life time of taking rejection drugs. I doubt you will find any surgeon willing to even try that type of surgery and I've not heard of it being done. Testicles are not a life and death thing like a Heart. If by some chance you found a quack who would try it I think your life expectancy would go way down due to the antirejection drugs shutting off your immune system. Don't even consider it.

Dear All,

Though Im also in pharmaceutical industry Im neither a doctor or a pharmacist so Id like to share my 2 questions with you;

1- Is it possible to gain the reproduction of T Hormones after chemical castration? I mean; is there a time limit as lets say after 6 months of Androcur therapy if you stop taking it and then start taking Testesterone Hormones, can the balls start functioning again?

2- Have anyone heard about testiscular transplant? I mean, after remobal or testicles, is it possible to transplant new ones?

Greetings to all from istanbul

[Testman (imported)]

They were transplanting testicles back in the 1950s. It's not that hard like a hand transplant is. Less likelihood of rejection with testicles.

Also, taking HCG kick starts the testicles when they have been shut down. However, I still maintain that the longer they have been shut down, the less they will go back to full functioning. But HCG will bring about any reversal of chemical castration that is possible, it will make it happen much faster. Just don't expect 100% return.

[unencumbered (imported)]

It seems to me that it would take more than six months of taking Androcur before the effects would become irreversible. Can some people relate their experiences after long term use and then stopping?

[mrt (imported)]

It seems to me that it would take more than six months of taking Androcur before the effects would become irreversible. Can some people relate their experiences after long term use and then stopping?

There are no hard rules for this. Most agree that when you go beyond 6 months you enter the range where long term changes happen and you can not easily undo them. Some men may see this sooner! Some later. Which would you be? Who knows. One reason that I think anyone dabbling with this ought to have a doctor monitoring them. And have a shrink talk to them about why before they start.

Its might help to ponder what happens when you take castration drugs or use HRT. Both interrupt the signals to the testicles that tell them to function. One reason that some men become infertile during this (But don't count on it!) Why? Imagine you were laid out in bed for 6 months and not allowed to move at all. How would a simple thing like your muscles act? After 6 months of not being used how well could you function? If it went on beyond that how much effort would be needed to get back into shape?

Testicles are not "muscles" but they atrophy which means there is less of them and thus less to come back. If you look at how these folks in the athletic world ruined their balls by using Testosterone during the playing season then tried to switch off and get their balls to return to normal? Well its not a pretty picture.

Drugs like HCG (or Clomid) can stimulate the Testicles to function and may make getting back some of what you loose possible but it also screws with the control center of the brain that regulates hormone production. And that (from what I understand) can be atrophied from too much tinkering as well. The concern that several doctors have (that I've talked to) is that long term use of HCG or Clomid may damage that part of the brain. There is no long term safety tests for HCG or Clomid on men. The only real tests for Clomid are fertility for women using it for short term use.

Without sounding like your mom. Messing with this for "fun" is not a good plan.

[clysmaniac (imported)]

Just ask Manny how good HCG works, he knows what he was doing!

[transward (imported)]

On testicle transplants the following might interest; he does say that a successful transplant was performed between identical twins, "According to citations in medical literature, the first testicle transplant was performed by Dr. Sherman Silber, in 1977, between identical twins. And it was successful as it turned out; as the recipient later fathered four children (his brother's technically)." :

http://www.altpenis.com/penis_news/test ... ants.shtml

Transward

[Jean Op den Kamp (imported)]

Wha, six months, that would have been nice. It toke one year and six months for this stuff to do its job. Taking 250mg/day. As a reward I got problems with my foreskin,(google for lichen) probably I will need to be circumcised. I am worried about my eyes, but not sure if that has anything to do with the androcur.

For this moment I don't like the idea of trying if it could be reversible.

It has finished several of my long term health problems like skin infections, aquagenic puritis(itching al over the body) , sore throat about 10 months/year.

Because the itching is past, I can go swimming again. Last Sunday there were a lot minors....I still see the beauty, I remember that there always was a feeling to control and now there is suddenly a strange emptiness where that feeling used to be. It's an odd feeling, something like reading your newspaper at Mc Donalds and without looking you want to take another bite from your hamburger,...your hand finds only an empty plate.

What the hell, I never liked hamburgers and most certainly no fish.

loveUall

Jean

[Eunuchorn (imported)]

Imagine Fully growing back lost testicles. Newts can grow back lost limbs. imagine if medicine could be advanced to regrow your nuts...