Paedophilia- The Biggest Murder whatsoever...

[erikboy (imported)]

Most children do have an excellent protection against people they shouldn't trust. They smell it, they feel it, a sixth sense. They don't understand the danger from internet, as this is only a small part of a real conversation. Because they don't catch a bad feeling they trust to easy........

But why are they going on internet to find someone who can listen? Is that maybe because in public nobody dares anymore

loveUall

Jean

Children have some protection against bad people, normally they just do not trust a person they see first time. Children can read other person emotions much better than adults, that is another protection.

But in internet they can not see other person. False sense of anonymity open them up to strangers and as they can not see other person face, they can not read emotions of that other person that otherway would have scared them off.

Parents have even less clue what their children and especially teenagers are doing in the net whole days and nights. So they have no chance to protect their child.

I wouldn't call an isolation a protection. Isolating a child from the world makes him/her more vulnerable. Much more vulnerable. Isolation is like AIDS that is destroying immune system.

In my country there was a case recently, where a man from the net (from another country, far far away) made a 15yo boy to commit a suicide. First the man made the boy believe that he is a girl. And after some chats man learned many facts about the boy. Where he goes to school, who are his friends, where he lived. Then he asked the boy to show his penis n the cam, which boy did and man recorded it. After that he started to blackmail the boy asking him to do more nasty things to pleasure him, threatening to send this recorded video to his friends. Until the boy commited a suicide.

Now, this is nasty. This man probably didn't understood what he was doing. I would call him an animal, as animals act on their low urges without thinking first. What do you do with a cat who piss everywhere?...

[Jean Op den Kamp (imported)]

In my country there was a case recently, where a man from the net (from another country, far far away) made a 15yo boy to commit a suicide. First the man made the boy believe that he is a girl. And after some chats man learned many facts about the boy. Where he goes to school, who are his friends, where he lived. Then he asked the boy to show his penis n the cam, which boy did and man recorded it. After that he started to blackmail the boy asking him to do more nasty things to pleasure him, threatening to send this recorded video to his friends. Until the boy commited a suicide.

Now, this is nasty. This man probably didn't understood what he was doing. I would call him an animal, as animals act on their low urges without thinking first. What do you do with a cat who piss everywhere?...

Thanks Erikboy, that is exactly what I pointed out. You wont find me any-where on the internet talking to children. I think that is "not done"

But yes,I believe that a lot people don't understand what they are doing. On the other hand, if some-one like the man in your example is cheating and blackmailing a child....... I am not that credulous. I think that he knew what he did was wrong. Up to me, he should pay the price, have him go tell the boy that he feels sorry.

loveUall

Jean

[Chris1115 (imported)]

Honestly, I think you hit the nail right on the head george. At least in my situation. If society wasn't so anti-gay, maybe gay teens wouldn't be pressured into hiding their feelings and going onto the internet where they can be anonymous in search of like minded individuals to meet up with. If they could just be themselves in public without fear of being bullied, teased, humiliated by their peers, or kicked out of the home or beaten by their parents then perhaps the sexual predators online won't have such an easy time finding them online. They'll be actively searching out potential love interests in their schools instead of online. I know being closeted, and in fear, is one of the factors that lead me to talk to other people online about it. Yes, people that go out and molest children are criminals. There is no if in my mind about that. If they

can't keep their fantasies in their head

then they deserve to be punished. But at the same time, society is also partly to blame for forcing certain minors into the situations where th

ey can be preyed upon by these sick minded individuals.

Re-reading the first post has made me mad.

YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT SPIRITUAL MURDER?

THESE "MORAL CRUSADERS" ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR BULLYING GAY TEENS INTO SUICIDE!

Talk all you want about "Hate Crime Laws".

The reason religions don't want them is RELIGIONS AND THIER "BIG

BLACK BOOK OF LIES" SPEAK HATE, BUT CALL IT "GOD'S LOVE".

[Paolo]

"A paedophile exhibits certain characteristics common to all such offenders:

These people often have failed marriages due to their sexual interests. The wife prefers to keep quiet to avoid social stigma and disgrace.

- He displays a fascination or unusual interest in children.

- He may use inappropriate and exaggerated terms for children such as

“pure”, “God sent” or “blissful”.

- His hobbies commonly belong to the child’s world such as toy collecting, building models of cars and planes and his room may be decorated in a child’s theme.

- He is generally single and has few or no friends of his age.

- He has systematic and prolonged access to children. Jobs such as that of school teachers, photographers, school counsellors and sports coaches serves his need well.

- Paedophiles are very adept at locating troubled or withdrawn children and lavish gifts upon the target and take him for activities in which they are left alone with no parental supervision.

- If the target is a troubled child, the paedophile will comfort and sympathize with him or her and often, over a period of time, the child will develop feelings for the offender even though he is being actively abused, a phenomenon called

“Stockholm syndrome”.

Treatment

Behavioral treatment of pedophilia does not affect recidivism, nor apparently does incarceration. The condition remains chronic, and for this reason, societal interest in incarceration prevails over what is generally seen as equivocal behavior treatment.

Although most practitioners believe that the etiology of pedophilia is psychologically oriented, a report published in the Journal of Neuro Psychiatry and Clinical Neuroscience suggested that bilateral anterior temporal disease, affecting more right than left temporal lobe, could increase sexual interest. The authors' study was limited to two adult professional patients with late-life homosexual pedophilia. Therefore, further observation and research is necessary to assess diagnostic and treatment implications for all neurologically based paraphilias.

In late 1999, Israeli researchers published a report on the discovery of the drug triptorelin as an effective treatment for males sex offenders in general. The drug regulates the production of testosterone. Of interest is that it can be injected once a month, compared to other similar anti-androgen drugs, which must be administered more often and have more serious side effects.

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And personally I wish there was a way to brain castrate those ones...

Could you cite some of your sources, please? While I agree with some of this, from what I studied in college, I question some of it.

Thank you.

[transward (imported)]

I wonder how many other people have hunted up the source of the quotes that Kizahakan used to start this thread. I went to the trouble to find it. Turns out that it is not a thoughtful discussion of pedophilia, it is a beyond the lunatic fringe screed against homosexuality. The link is as follows:

http://www.thebyteshow.com/Paedophilia_ ... Crime.html

It's too long to quote in its entirety, but I will quote a few paragraphs that Kizahakan omitted in the original post:

"Homosexuality is like a huge house with many rooms. Each room has a sign or indicator on the door as to the contents or activities of that room. The labels on the rooms could read, for example; sadist, masochist, coprophiliac, necrophiliac, zoophiliac (beastiality), scopophilia, transvestite, erotomaniac, bi-sexual, homosexual rage, psycho-dynamics of latent homosexuality. These are specific rooms under the roof of homosexuality. One of the rooms in the house of perversion is labeled pederast. This is the portion of the house reserved for the paedophile. A child who is kept by the paedophile is called a catamite. A catamite is a child kept for sexual purposes. The paedophile desires sex with children. The compulsion to have sex with children stems from a severe spiritual deformity - spiritual corruption. A paedophile may be bi-sexual, or appear to be heterosexual. The heterosexual does not engage in paedophilia under any circumstances. The paedophile may indulge in any of the perversions listed above. The list is by no means complete nor listed in any particular order of importance.

Make no mistake, children do not seduce adults, adults seduce children. Children exude an intense spiritual energy and that energy is known as innocence. The aim of the homosexual paedophile is to destroy the child's innocence. Does every child who has been attacked by a paedophile(s) become a paedophile? No. A percentage do become paedophiles, but there are many who do not. The child is damaged and the damage is life long."

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"It is also well known among the seasoned veteran members of the FBI's forensic science unit (many now retired or forced out) that homosexuality is a characteristic component to the psyche of the serial murderer, and or serial rapist. Is every homosexual a rapist? No. Is every rapist a homosexual? No. The Paedophile is a serial rapist. The psychosexual dynamic connected with paedophilia is directly related to homosexuality. The adherents of the new world order's propaganda machine vehemently refute the facts as they promote and enforce levels of tolerance designed for chaos and increased sexual crimes carried out against children. It should also be mentioned that it is well known that paedophilia was rampant among the Nazis and it still is. Paedophilia has long been used as a power control for occult societies."

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"A man who has never engaged in homosexual activity with another man but has seduced a child (or children) into having sex with him is a paedophile, he is a latent homosexual." ... "Overwhelming evidence supports the belief that homosexuality is a sexual deviancy often accompanied by disorders that have dire consequences for our culture," wrote Steve Baldwin in, "Child Molestation and the Homosexual Movement," soon to be published by the Regent University Law Review. Baldwin is the executive director of the Council for National Policy in Washington, D.C.

Comment: It should be pointed out that latent homosexuality also exists among people who appear to be heterosexual. The key word is APPEAR. Paedophilia is exclusive among homosexuals, it is not merely more common among homosexuals. Heterosexuals do not engage in paedophilia or homosexuality under any circumstance."

O wonder if the person who wrote this even remembers their childhood. I remember mine quite well, and I can state clearly that while I was still legally jailbait, I was doing my damndest to seduce a number of people (unsuccessfully I have to concede) who, had I succeeded, would have been guilty of statutory rape. I don't think I was that unusual.

Transward

[kizahakan (imported)]

Dear All,

Thank you for all ur postings and ur opinions. Pls find below the links I gathered up these info about paedophiles... And I really am suprised to some who did really take these personal cause I did not mean to insult anybody here so to those who take this as personal maybe "They try to learn the difference between CARING for a CHILD and CARESSING a CHILD" if somehow they can manage to set this up in their minds...

http://psychology.jrank.org/pages/476/Pedophilia.html (treatment part)

And the rest were form TRANSWARD posting and as mentioned by her, the article were also covering homosexuality.

And again 4 those who took these as personal, I donet have any problems with gays, eunuches, bisex, les, trans, or other sexual genders, my problem is with ones that somehow can support or see peadophiles as normal or my problem is really with the ones who really can not understand the difference between caring for a child and caressing a child...

Regards,

Hakan

[the___ul (imported)]

the most disturbing thing i have read was a personal experience story of a self-harming girl.

the reason she started cutting was getting caught by some child-protectors during a great witchunt.

people who start and fuel moral panic, people who demonize pedophiles (or gays or communists or heretics - take your pick) do not care about protecting anybody.

they care about power over others.

the mind of a young child is very "workable", you can get almost any confession you want.

that girl was not so young, so she was well protected supported and encouraged to "just tell us everything"

luckily, the interrogators stopped just short of physical torture. but she was scarred for life.

by some estimates, a lot worse than a teenage sexual encouter would have. and she is not the only case.

i have heard about young couples, curious kids, ending both sentenced and marked for life - for rapeing each other. nice way to protect, huh?

there is no excuse for forcing someone to anything. but that's about it.

also, people, please learn the correct terms. pedophile is interested in pre-puberty kids, not teenagers.

i live in a country, where age of consent is 14, for all orientations. so Chris1115, your encounter would have been perfectly legal here.

i'm happily married (with a kid) for almost 5 years (we've been together a lot longer), but in some countries i just might hope for parole soon, as my wife was 16 when we met and i was 24.

so, with greeting from all the victims of moral panic and all those wrongfully accused and all the kids separated from their loved ones - please mr. Protector-Of-The-Innocent, do something constructive with yourself. we can provide gasoline and matches.

i thought i was done hateing when i started to hang out here, among people who should be able to think clearly, without prejudices and hatred towards any deviaton from a set "normality".

looks like i was wrong and hatred has found a way here.

p.s. oh, i almost forgot, i can't confirm the source, but i have read statistics, that most childrapeists have just taken a target of opportunity weaker than them, nothing to do with their actual orientation.

[kizahakan (imported)]

people, please learn the correct terms. pedophile is interested in pre-puberty kids, not teenagers.

i thought i was done hateing when i started to hang out here, among people who should be able to think clearly, without prejudices and hatred towards any deviaton from a set "normality".

looks like i was wrong and hatred has found a way here.

To make it clear 4 the ones that still offends paedophiles, in all my comments on this thread by peadophiles I mean "adults" who tries to have sex with CHILDREN (hope each of us can understand what I mean by CHILDREN- anyone in their pre-puberty era) So once more I will say, "I do not approve adults having sex with minors (children) what so ever...And for the ones that are trying to explain this issue as a normak experience so WELLDONE for them and congratulations BRAVO 2 U ALL.

Please read carefully, I do not insult or personallay attack anybody, this postings are not for that aim. So anyone offending those sexual acts I really wonder if they really know the difference between caring and caressing for a child...CHILD (not teenagers)

Regards,

hakan

[Chris1115 (imported)]

Yea, some places age of consent is lower... it's 16 in my state, so when I was "molested" by that old guy it would've been illegal. Course I didn't say anything due to being in the closet and afraid of exposure... curse society and it's damnable heterocentric homophobic attitudes... >.<