30 days on androcure

[anticobanco (imported)]

hi,

i'm mark from italy and i'm on androcure to reduce my libido, erection ect.

is a mounth now. i start with 100 mg forf 5 days, then 200 mg for next 5 days and 300 mg for 20 days.

i'm on the supervision of the doctor and it is all ok, but ..... i can still get erected and i can ejaculate (very clear). my sex drive is not at zero level and my sexual fantasy is the same.

is it normal??

what do you think about, ??

bie

[bobbie (imported)]

300mg is a high dose for most of the people that go on androcur. Most are on 100mg. 200mg seems to be the high level. The effects take time. Most will still get an erection with androcur and can still ejaculate. It may be a weak erection and not ejaculate very much.

Even with castration you can still get erections and have some ejaculate. The ejaculate with castration will just be with no spearm.

[unencumbered (imported)]

My personal experiences after now four and a half months on androcur and tamoxifen are as follows:

No erections during the day or night, except early in the morning, just before I wake, when they are not very strong or long-lasting, and without the desire for sex,

No interest in sex most of the time and if I'm interested its not overly so and the desire is brief and it quickly subsides,

No interest in masturbation,

No sexual dreams or arousal when viewing or reading erotic literature.

I sleep next to my wife every night and remain flaccid unless she manually stimulates me and that erection quickly ends once she stops and I have no desire for her to continue. I can still promptly become physically aroused when my wife asks for sex, which is about three or four times a month, and I ejaculate and enjoy it , although the amount is smaller.

I take 25mg of androcur and 20mg of tamoxifen daily. I had increased the androcur dose to 50mg for about two weeks but I noticed no change other than tiredness and I went back to 25mg. Most of the above experiences started within a month or so after I began taking the medication.

I like the effects of not being controlled by a craving for sex and so does my wife and we plan on continuing.

I don’t know if my physical or mental experiences are normal for someone on androcur and tamoxifen. Perhaps a large dosage has more pronounced effects. It would be nice if some others could comment to compare their dosage and experiences.

[unencumbered (imported)]

I forgot to add the following effects:

Noticing cold more acutely during the day,

Getting occasional night cold shakes and, starting recently, night sweating every night despite the cold,

Some occasional redness in the face,

Tiredness, which as since gone away,

Slow hair growth.

The cold shakes and sweating have been manageable.

[bobbie (imported)]

I forgot to add the following effects:

Noticing cold more acutely during the day,

Getting occasional night cold shakes and, starting recently, night sweating every night despite the cold,

Some occasional redness in the face,

Tiredness, which as since gone away,

Slow hair growth.

The cold shakes and sweating have been manageable.

That is all normal effects of reduced testosterone. The effects can go and return over time. Everyone will experience the effects a little different.

[unencumbered (imported)]

That is all normal effects of reduced testosterone. The effects can go and return over time. Everyone will experience the effects a little different.

It would be informative to hear from people who have experienced both chemical vs. surgical castration as to how they are similar or differ, other than the permanency of the latter. My guess is that the effects of physical castration are more pronounced and that might make me hesitant to consider it sometime in the future.

[bobbie (imported)]

It would be informative to hear from people who have experienced both chemical vs. surgical castration as to how they are similar or differ, other than the permanency of the latter. My guess is that the effects of physical castration are more pronounced and that might make me hesitant to consider it sometime in the future.

I was on androcur for over 2.5 years before my castration. I had blood test done to make sure that I was at castration levels. I lived at castration levels and found no difference between chemical and the real thing.

People that find a difference are the ones that were only on chemical for a shorter time. 6 months in not enough. Even a year is not a real long test time. The changes to the mind and body take time to adjust.

Another reason why many find a difference is that they may not be at castration levels with the chemical castration. Most do not get the blood test. They think they are from the effects. The effects are not a true way of knowing of castration levels. Only a blood test will tell.

Hope this helps some.

[unencumbered (imported)]

I was on androcur for over 2.5 years before my castration. I had blood test done to make sure that I was at castration levels. I lived at castration levels and found no difference between chemical and the real thing.

People that find a difference are the ones that were only on chemical for a shorter time. 6 months in not enough. Even a year is not a real long test time. The changes to the mind and body take time to adjust.

Another reason why many find a difference is that they may not be at castration levels with the chemical castration. Most do not get the blood test. They think they are from the effects. The effects are not a true way of knowing of castration levels. Only a blood test will tell.

Hope this helps some.

Bobbie, Thanks for the reply. I hope that it is as informative to others as it is to me. I already had my first test taken at the four-month mark to see where I am but I haven't received the results back yet. Like you, I believe that one-year of being chemically castrated probably is too short a time to make an informed decision whether or not to be surgically castrated. It is a big decision and shouldn't be made lightly or without enough firsthand experience.

[anticobanco (imported)]

tanks to all,

tomorrow mornig i'll do blood test. it take 4/5 days to have the result. i hope the T level is under 100.

Bobbie, tank for your information. When you were on adrocur,did you were sexual active?

bie

[clysmaniac (imported)]

I have had both chemical and surgical castration and can assure you that if you have gotten your testosterone low enough and long enough with the chemicals, there will be absolutely no difference other than the temporary/permanent thing. If you miss on either getting your testosterone low enough or not doing it long enough then you will see some changes. Testosterone tests are varied with different labs having different ranges of "normal" numbers so its not always possible to accurately compare with others. My feeling is that if your T level is about or less than 1/4th their lower level you should be reasonably castrated chemically. You're going into uncharted waters for your body so you may think you are fully castrated because you have a number of the symptoms of low T but you have no way of knowing how low is low without testing.

The others are right in saying that some of the effects of low testosterone can be very slow to show themselves. A T test answers the how low question but the how long question is more ambigious. I would say the longer, the better to stay on chemical castration. The other thing Bobbie taught me but hasn't said here is that probably the last effect of low T to show up is bone loss. Osteoporosis isn't just for women anymore. Since there are no symptoms, you'll never know this until something bad happens or you get a bone density test. Its funny that the same disease is caused by low estrogen in women as is caused by low testosterone in men. In the short run, take some calcium suppliments.