'Cured' of being gay.

[polarthong (imported)]

I thought this might be about those wacky guys in Iran who said "We have NO gays in Iran!" and then announce that everyone who says they are Gay will be given (by force if need be) TS surgery so they will have hetrosexual sex.

Then the question becomes. Are they "cured"?

I guess that the only way to "cure" or "fix" a sexual orientation so that it's aligned with the body. as I don't believe you can change your sexual orientation, is for the person to have/be given SRS.

There was no way I could ever have changed being sexually attracted to men, by I was able to change my sex.

Mind, if a gay man who identifies as male was forced to have SRS, well I'm not sure how that would turn out.

[A-1 (imported)]

I guess that the only way to "cure" or "fix" a sexual orientation so that it's aligned with the body. as I don't believe you can change your sexual orientation, is for the person to have/be given SRS.

There was no way I could ever have changed being sexually attracted to men, by I was able to change my sex.

Mind, if a gay man who identifies as male was forced to have SRS, well I'm not sure how that would turn out.

Do you know how they "cure" Gayness in Iran if they find it out?

They KILL YOU, man, that's how they "cure" it, they KILL YOU.

CAPISH?

[polarthong (imported)]

There's no need to shout. I'm fully aware of of the policies of the Iranian government.

My response wasn't directly related to the issues in Iran.

[Riverwind (imported)]

If you believe the Kinsey scale, few people are either 100% straight or 100% gay, and most are at least slightly bisexual although they may not be conscious of this due to cultural conditioning. Most of these people claiming to have been "cured" of homosexuality were probably capable of swinging either way to begin with and have simply been trained to suppress the homo side of their sexuality.

I think I agree with you on this one, I had an uncle that live with his boy friend for about 20 years when he moved in with the woman next door who had just lost her husband, she had 4 kids, they had several more and stayed married for over 40 years until his death.

However I could never see my brother being anything but gay, its just the way it is.

River

[sensenbender (imported)]

Here's a truly liberating site -

http://www.g0ys.org/

There's a lot of truth here about human sexuality.

Wow! That site hits the spot. Thanks bobover3. Here's a quote from a book called "Sex tips for gay guys". It epitomizes the stereotype you're talking about (one of them anyway), and it illustrates why I, for one, avoid the Castro like the plague:

"Some people think it's all fun and games being a gay guy, but underneath that fabulous exterior, there's more maintenance than you'[ll find at a fat-farm reunion. Between hair, nail, and skin care, waxing, shaving, trimming, tanning, teeth bleachings, and personal-training sessins, it's a miracle that we ever get out of the house at all. And that doesn't include special occasion facials, massages, and collagen injections. Being truly fabulous doesn't come easy, and it doesn't come cheap. After your rent and your bar bill, your monthly maintenance costs may well be one of your largest expenses."

Pheh! Phooey! Who needs all that sh*t!

Having said that, I don't really have a huge problem with guys who go that way, any more than I do with cross-dressers, but the assumption that all 'gay' guys are like that is what offends me.

[Pervyguy (imported)]

Still gay & proud to be so, had a good-gay life so far, nothing could change that, I have no desire for children, haven't got any, never will, and no offense, but I cannot get excited over or like looking at womens body. Just watched a sex program on Channel 4 and saw about 5 different naked women, just turned me right off. (channel4.com/sexexprience) a naked eunuch male is so much better

I think I agree with you on this one, I had an uncle that live with his boy friend for about 20 years when he moved in with the woman next door who had just lost her husband, she had 4 kids, they had several more and stayed married for over 40 years until his death.

However I could never see my brother being anything but gay, its just the way it is.

River

[loveableleopardy (imported)]

This is a pretty interesting thread.

I especially like the posts from bobover3. The posts from Oneballboi are sad to read.

The concept of curing someone from being gay is ridiculous as firstly it suggests that to be gay is to have a disease, or be sinful or whatever. I agree with what someone else said on here, that the only people who claim to have been "cured" of this are Christians or Muslims. It's their fear of their God (and their religious comrades) talking. They either weren't gay to begin with or still are.

Sexuality is nothing to do with ones sexual experience. It's ones mindset, which one is born with.

I am only 29 years old though, so fairly young in life. I can still learn a lot from wiser folk! Someone mentioned that they thought very few people were actually 100% straight or 100% gay, and this is something that I've never agreed with but would like to explore. This suggests that many men can simply go one way or the other......by choice. Doesn't it?

I would have thought that most men were straight (as a basic guess let's say 85-90%), with up to 10% gay and up to 5% bi-sexual. There is the suggestion that many of the straight men could 'become' gay in the right environment......say a prison. As a straight guy I find this difficult to believe, though I'm open to exploring the possibilities (not that I'm going to subject myself to prison as a guinea pig!).

I am a guy with quite a lot of 'feminine' tendencies, or so called gay traits (though I don't care about fashion and being neat, etc). These I regularly explore in my self analysis. But I just don't desire to be with men. Men don't make me feel (physically and emotionally) like women do. I'm also a virgin. Yet I don't see myself as being desperate to have my sexual needs satisfied by a man because a woman so far hasn't done so (an idea that was suggested on this thread).

I like what was said about the annoyance of the gay stereotype (which I earlier have fallen into!). Obviously not all gay men are like Carsson (the fashion guy from Queer Eye For The Straight Guy)!

It is neither 'right' to be gay or straight or bi-sexual or assexual, etc. It SHOULD not matter. It's unfortunate that our society does not function as such.

It is nice to read that there are a lot of happy people on this site. People that have been through a lot through no fault of their own, but have fought on to come out the other side as positive, confident, open minded people. Oneballboi - we're not going to let you off the hook too easily.

[jemagirl (imported)]

I tried not to be attracted to men. I fought it as hard as I could, and then I met a guy and we did it Since then I have often looked behind me but I have never looked back... LOL

[nullorchis (imported)]

A lot of men are attracted to men, and this scares the hell out of them.

They tend to be the ones who are the most outspoken about homosexuality in an attempt to show themselves and the world that they have no attraction to persons of the same sex.

It all has to do with lack of understanding, culture, fear of rejection, and wanting to do what gets one accepted socially.

Some of them eventually go underground and have gay encounters while pretending to be straight.

Numerous men are married, have kids, give all the outward appearance of being totally hetro, but in their minds, in their emotions, they know it is a lie, but they suppress the lie, and in the process suffer emotional upheaval.

I do not know of anyone who is living a gay life and secretly wants to be straight or is secretly having straight sex. That would be more like they are bi-sexual; and indeed many straight men who desire same sex experiences may also be bi-sexual but they think that their feelings mean that they are homosexual.

Maybe that's why no-sexual is better . Less complex.

[mrt (imported)]

I think you have narrow minded people who think all sexual activities should be this way and it seems that both straight and gay people have these outspoken ahh.... "people". I'm thinking of the angry lesbians who felt strap on sex between women was awful because they were doing a simulation of straight sex. Or the more typical deal with straights who think any same sex contact is going to conclude with Jesus screaming "f" you! * I really don't think Jesus is about that btw...

And of course the humor of having both straight and gay people saying there is no such thing as bisexuality. SIGH.... I'm pretty straight but does this not seem really dumb? As long as your not doing it with kids of the neighbors pets who cares?

And if your into shoes or lace or people wearing rocket helmets and speedos? Big whoop.....