transgender people who keep their parts?

[jockey_elance (imported)]

I know that most transgender people don't like their genitals and want to have a sex change operation, but some can't because of money or whatever reason. But do any guy--girl transgenders like their equiptment enough to keep it? (or just be castrated) I think a girl with guy parts would be kind of exciting.

[bobover3 (imported)]

There's a whole genre of pornography that has to do with just what you describe - girls with guy parts. Many bisexual men find that exciting. I know nothing about what the girl-guys feel, or whether they're happy. In pornography, they're called "she-males," or "trannies," etc. Also, in Japan, there's a whole genre of pornographic art concerning "futanari," a Japanese term for "she-males." See my avatar for an example.

Also, in New York City, and many other places, there's a very large market for "she-male" prostitutes. Many heterosexual men get blow-jobs from "she-males," thinking they're with a woman. In NYC, scores of "she-male" prostitutes stand around the exit from the Lincoln Tunnel and take advantage of slow traffic to board the cars of their customers.

I don't necessarily approve of any of this. Many people feel that pornography degrades and exploits its subjects, and prostitution may not only degrade and exploit, but can be a locus of disease, violence, addiction, and crime. Nonetheless, the existence of this industry shows that there are many transexuals who keep their male parts, and that there are many, like you, who find this exciting.

Again, I can't speak to the thoughts or feelings of the people involved. I'd guess that people driven to earn a living as porn models or prostitutes are not happy or secure in their personal lives. This is a tragedy.

Still, if you remain interested, a Google search will show you what you want to see.

[helsinki (imported)]

I am a male-to-androgyne transsexual. As I am not intending to have further genital surgery, I had my scrotum removed at the time of my bilateral orchiectomy. However I am taking estrogen and I am welcoming the changes that are happening as a result. I am also intending to have electrolysis on my face.

I prefer female pronouns and intend (one day) to present as female in everyday life.

I took the COGIATI test and scored +80 (Class 3), putting me on the feminine side of androgynous. The advice given in the test results was "Permanent polarization in either direction might bring significant unhappiness. It is not recommended that you go through a complete transsexual transformation. You might find a partial transformation of value, if you find yourself more attracted overall to the feminine."

Perhaps androgynes are a separate gender. If so, there would be relevant sexual orientations: males interested in androgynes, females interested in androgynes, androgynes interested in androgynes.

When I first googled the word "she-male", I was appalled by the associations with prostitution and pornography. Instead I suggest googling the words "androgyne" or "genderqueer".

[Priscilla (imported)]

Well I am one of those who have kept my parts.

After being on estrogen for 4 years, I decided to have breast implants before SRS, because breasts are more of an "outward" trigger to be able to pass. Well when I had the implant surgery, and after it had all healed, I looked in the mirror and I thought my body was so beautiful with breasts and a penis. So I have had many surgeries, like FFS (facial feminization surgery), but I have never had SRS.

Also, I have found some men and some women who are very turned on by my body, and of course, it is exciting for me too.

So I have lived as a woman now for 8 years, and I don't think I will ever have the penile inversion of SRS, but I may have castration (orchi) later, just to tidy up a bit.

I know several other trans people who have kept their parts, and all of us seem to like it. Some of us are in the sex trade and earn quite a good living at that. That personally is not my thing but I do not judge those who do.

Feel free to ask any questions as they come up.....guys and gals.

[wannabefemale (imported)]

don't u feel the needing of having a vagina?

[transward (imported)]

I have very strong opinions about this subject. I have run trans support groups for a number of years, have know hundreds (literally) of people who have had SRS, and even more who have chosen not to for various reasons, served on a board with Marcie Bowers before she went off to Trinidad to become the new face of SRS surgeons. Myself, I am non op mostly for financial reasons. If I had the $20,000 to 30,000 it would cost for SRS (unlikely as I run a small nonprofit at around the poverty line) I would spend it for facial plastic surgery which would affect my transition much more than the surgical creation of a vagina, which might never get used.

But I believe there is far too much emphasis on SRS as THE cure for transsexuality. This is reinforced by the media which always takes their transsexual coverage into surgery for SRS. I have seen someone whose wife has caught him wearing women's panties show up at a support meeting for the first time and within ten minutes the peer pressure group is giving him advice on hormones and SRS surgeons. And I have known a number of women who have had the surgery and have greatly regretted it. Not the transition, but the surgery. Remember, about a quarter of women have had SRS lose all ability to have an orgasm, and before about twenty years ago the percentage was vastly greater. And if you have a romantic relationship before the surgery, your partner may well not stay around after. Those who have had a rewarding sexual life before often find it much less rewarding after.

There is a small, very vocal and quite annoying group of self described "real transsexuals," who declare that if you don't hate your genitals and want to cut them off as soon as possible, you are not a real woman, you are "just" a transvestite, or "just" a cross dresser, "not, of course that there is anything wrong with that." Which I believe as much as the "I'm not a racist, some of my best friends are..."

None of this should discourage those who feel that they must be totally congruent with their self image. If that is the case, go for it, Girl. But realize that you can also have a rewarding life as a woman without SRS.

Transward

[Hash (imported)]

Surgery does make a person male or female, it's what inside that defines who we are. Surgery is also risky, you never know what might happen and if you want to maintain your orgasmic ability, why risk SRS Surgery. Anatomically correctness might make you look female, but if you lose your ability to orgasm, you might not care if you look female.

Regarding orchiectomies. Losing your testicles will greatly diminish ones sexual desire. Women can't really understand how testosterone drives men to seek & fulfill their sexual desires. Yes, some women do have higher sexual desires, but most women simply do not have as high a sexual desire as men. That said, when a man is castrated his sexual desire will lessen to that of "most" women. That in itself is an adjustment that is often difficult for some castrated transsexual women to accept. So if you like your sexual desire the way that it is, leave things alone, don't mess up what you have because if you do, you may regret it.

[Priscilla (imported)]

Wannabefemale- Yes, sometimes I wish I had a vagina, if I could have my body exactly like I wanted it I would have a vagina and a penis, together.

But as Transward has so eloquently put it above, I do not feel the driving need that some TGs feel to have SRS, so I find that I am happy the way I am. I pass pretty well for a very tall woman, and enjoy a vibrant sex life, and have friends and family around me whom I love.

So, I am non-op by choice, or non-op because of some special gender wiring that I have. Who knows.

[transward (imported)]

But as Transward has so eloquently put it above,

Why, thank you. I have never considered myself particularily eloquent. I like that.

Transward

[FianceeUvBigGuy (imported)]

Yoli here,

If the two castrated persons I'm sexually intimate with, Barry T. Eunuch and my Asian ladyboy lover, had given up their penises in addition to their balls, I'd have no interest in them sexually...NONE. I might enjoy friendship with them but that would be absolutely IT.

True, Barry is a "masculine" eunuch, apart from being a bit delicate in appearance and manner. Ergo, he cannot be considered TG/TS.

"Treasure" on the other hand, IS so amazingly "female" as to boggle the mind, especially when "She" reveals the tiny penis over her vacant little baggie.

Having read this thread I called her and asked if she ever did consider going all the way, surgically speaking. She stated that she had no intention of ever doing so because of the risks involved and the fact that she truly loves her penis and the sensations it can provide, even without truly firm erections and it's small size.

I am soooooooo grateful for her decision!

Occasionally her tiny peepee can become sufficiently erect to partially penetrate my >^..^< or at least rub nicely against my clitty. She even managed to enter my rear port of entry on two occasions.

Had she made a complete transition none of that would have been possible...sniff!:( If she gave up her peepee she's be nothing more than a shopping buddy to me.

Yoli

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