going for it

[Jean Op den Kamp (imported)]

Hi

I start a new thread, because what I need to find doesn't belong to the [Chemical Castration & Hormones] anymore.

I get the feeling that its over for androcur / ciproteroneacetate.

This month I leave for Vietnam again and I intend to give it a try. I mean going for it, not just ask some people.

Next week I'm going to see my family doctor, and I am going to explain him very clearly why I carry about 4000 euro for "unexpected cost" with me on my journey. I got cipro on priscription as he found out that I was using it anyway, so I like to see what he will do if he find out what risc I'm prepaired to take at the other side of the world if nobody agrees to help me here in NL.

I will keep you eamboarders informed what happens. But PLEASE, I've been living in Ho Chi Minh district 8, (one of the bad!!!) for several years. Just don't think this is a good idea and try this yourself at places like Vietnam, Thailand, India. If you don't know that strugle for live thoose people live in, going there, asking for something (nearly) illegal and having money with you.... one may not need an infection anymore to die.

I love you all to much to advice you to try it.

Am I scared? I think my mind works like a normal person so YES I am

[tugon (imported)]

I hope your doctor upon hearing the risks you will take helps you out. We struggle in the US to become eunuchs but what you will be risking is unimaginable to us. If you have to travel to Vietnam I wish you a safe journey. Please keep posting and let us know how you are doing.

[Jean Op den Kamp (imported)]

I hope your doctor upon hearing the risks you will take helps you out. We struggle in the US to become eunuchs but what you will be risking is unimaginable to us. If you have to travel to Vietnam I wish you a safe journey. Please keep posting and let us know how you are doing.

Tomorrow I need to go to the hospital (painclinic) I will get injections under x-raycontroll in my tailbone (cann't sit without a lot of pain)

The pain doctor is in his sixties, and he is just that kind of person you can feel the human between the doctor. He will know a lot about other doctors and their vision of live. So if I get the chance, I take a first shot.

[Jean Op den Kamp (imported)]

If it wasn't such a serious problem for me and several others to find that cut,.......

Live can be one good joke.

Having your naked ass up, getting several injections arround your tailbone, two assistents looking at you face if you can handle the pain, and then asking the doctor about finding an urologist who may be willing to cut your balls

First winn, he didn't even need to ask if I was serious. Second winn, he said this was such an unexpected question, he had to think about it, but if someone came up to him, he would inform me.

[Jean Op den Kamp (imported)]

I have to say thanks to the people who keep this Bulletin board running,

sometimes they make life just a little easier

As it can be hard, just to run into your family doctor, asking for a castration, I printed my first posting in this thread and had him read it.

After that we had a good conversation.....................

He will write me a referral for a urologist.

I may get a problem to find one who is willing to, but at least it is a beginning.

My family doctor took my request very serious.

I keep you informed

[Jean Op den Kamp (imported)]

Maybe any of you real eunuch, who did the chemical way before can help me with this question.....

Being able to get it up or not is not the question for me. It's just that I can feel what testosterone tries to do. If I love, and want to give love, this partner in self-interest, urging and more bad things (I don't know the english for) is a big problem for me.

Sure I can fight those feelings, I win every time. But I just don't want them to exist

Using androcur, upto 250 mg a day my little boy doesn't jump up just like that, but if I set my mind on it, yes I get a hard on and I can ejaculate when I Jack of. So that would be okay, it means that my mind rules, it's up to me.

But it also means, that I can still feel that battle between my mind and the testosterone wanting to make me selfish

How can I call something love and making love (from my view of feelings)

if somehow testosterone makes me looking for a payback for my gift

It's hard to express, even more as english is not my native language and at this level the dictionary isn't very helpfull anymore

So I hope some of you do understand what I'm asking,.............

Will being cut finish this problem. Are those negative feelings gone with the wind(balls)

I would be very greatfull for some nice reply's

[eefje46 (imported)]

I think love is selfish, You are trying to please the other to shoot your load. Or the other way around, pleasing to get the load. You can find this is in every animal. This is about keeping the species alive. Dutch on.(soort in stand houden) Dutch off. It is not only the hormones it is in your gene's the hormones are only the trigger. look at hte dog's or the bird's. When spring is coming day's are getting longer and the bird's hormones are getting wild, and they are only thinking of making a nest and so on, that why there are so many over run. With the dog's it is so that the bitch get's hot and the dog get's wild. I know becouse i am a kennel owner.

So i don't think you feel the testosteron but you are just feeling what the reason of being is. Keeping the species alive. when you realise that it is easy'r to cope with it.

Staying and living together with a partner is the hardest part.

grtz eef

[_g (imported)]

The results of NOT having testosterone from you testicles varies from person to person. Your sensitivity to testosterone is a factor as your production of testosterone from other sources in your body. Some can preform as well as if they still had there family jewels to others with complete non-function with no sexual feeling at all. My testicles stopped working about 5 years ago, and unluckily replacement testosterone did not restore my sex drive but I could preform.

Others have reported loss of body hair, feminization, and other effects but for me the only change has been my bust size. I'm still a hairy ape but with a very low interest in sex.

[Jean Op den Kamp (imported)]

I think love is selfish, You are trying to please the other to shoot your load.

grtz eef

Well I gues that's where you misunderstand me. daarin herken ik mij niet That's just not me. To long I found it hard to accept, but I realize and love the feeling that this will not do for me. If I get the feeling that I give love, looking for that win for myself , its over. No androcur needed to get it down. Testosteron like you say is trying to make us react, just the way you are telling us. I can feel it, and my mind is that strong that it is me and always will be me who is in charge. But yes, its again and again, this testosteron atack on the person who I am, is going on and on.

I just don't want to fight it anymore and I never let it win, I WANT TO BE FREE, I WANT TO BE ME

[Jean Op den Kamp (imported)]

The results of NOT having testosterone from you testicles varies from person to person. Your sensitivity to testosterone is a factor as your production of testosterone from other sources in your body. Some can preform as well as if they still had there family jewels to others with complete non-function with no sexual feeling at all. My testicles stopped working about 5 years ago, and unluckily replacement testosterone did not restore my sex drive but I could preform.

Others have reported loss of body hair, feminization, and other effects but for me the only change has been my bust size. I'm still a hairy ape but with a very low interest in sex.

I don't care to much about those side effects. I don't think that I am that beautiful, to be affraid of losing it, and for far over one year on androcur (now high doses) I noticed no changes at all.

About being able to preform, once I become an eunuch, sure I have been thinking. It doesn't matter. Being able would be great, and if not, just perfect

All I want is that "selfish poisening" testosteron to be stopped, It should go to hell as soon as possible