Girl booked for squeezing guy's testicles

[Ernie of Maine (imported)]

Spedvogel you still don't get a criam has been committed! Messalina is right the felon should and was arrested! That the felon was female not with standing. ___Ernie of Maine______

[devi (imported)]

Actually if she had had squeezed him hard enough he would have seriously wound up spending maybe a few nights in the hospital with major swelling, fever, nausea and so forth along with not being able to work for possibly a week. Absolutely it is domestic abuse.

[kristoff]

I would suspect that there is a lot more to the story, most likely repeat performances leading to a final confrontation / police, etc. Just a guess. I've seen similar situations in past - often stalking and assault cases - some of them with the woman as the stalker. But, nevertheless, let a guy enjoy his fantasies....

[ramses (imported)]

No one would question it as an assault if HE had punched her in the poon or pulled her labia to the point of extreme pain. Many women today have a screwed up idea that they have the right to hit men if they get pissed off. It could be that pop culture (movies, tv) finds it comical for a female to assault a male.

I tell my daughters to NEVER hit a guy/boyfriend in anger because THEY are escalating an argument to a physical confrontation. I suspect that many domestic violence charges that men face are only because men almost always win a physical confrontation with a woman. For the record, I despise a man that would beat ANYONE, especially someone that is comparatively defenseless. But if you don't want to get your ass kicked, don't assault someone that can stonmp your ass in 5 seconds flat...

[Bagoas (imported)]

N.B. Men have DIED from a sudden hard squeeze to the testicles. It can cause fatal neurogenic shock. There was a case of this sort in India a few years ago in which a woman squeezed the testicles of a guard of some kind and he dropped dead from shock.

It is alleged that the women of Kassiyah in India have long used this method to rid themselves of abusive husbands inasmuch as it leaves no marks and death is usually attributed to a "seizure".Yes, something was certainly seized !

[Messalina (imported)]

Bless you, Messalina, for saying what needs to be understood by thinking people everywhere. I think where some run aground here on an issue like this is when their ballbusting fantasies take over from considered thought about what constitutes fairness and justice. It's one thing if done consensually, but quite another when it's an attack. All too many others swallow the feminist hype that declares (falsely) that 95% of all such violence is committed by men and view such attacks by women as an anomaly, when if fact women actually initiate domestic violence slightly more often, but are rarely reported, more rarely prosecuted, and even more rarely given any meaningful punishment if convicted.

Indeed, what is most unusual about this case is that she was arrested at all. More typically in such cases, the cops arrest the man under the premise that he must have somehow provoked the attack.

Hello Radar,

How are you? It's good to hear from you. Thank you, and a big AMEN to your response. Yes, many people in groups such as this (and others) permit their fantasies and or desires, to interfere with rationale thought. Yes, many radical feminists (of both genders) still peddle that tripe, about domestic violence being a male "issue". It's also true that, these people seem to have different definitions of what constitutes domestic violence. As you intimated, these people don't consider a woman slapping a man or throwing something at him, to be domestic violence. In these peoples's minds, they don't consider such acts to even be provocations for violence.

Please, don't misunderstand. I'm not suggesting that, these actions by a woman, gives a man license to beat her into unconsciousness. I'm merely agreeing with you.. re: the "disconnect" between feminist (and other) domestic violence advocates, and often the reality of abusive relationships.

Yes, I agree that, the woman's arrest in the Colorado case is atypical. I don't know that, I would go so far as to say that the authourities usually "A

rrest the man under the premise that he must have somehow provoked the attack

". That isn't "probable cause" and would never stand up under judicial review.

Warm regards,

Messalina

[Messalina (imported)]

It is true that lack of consent makes it a crime, but also please realize that many here, like myself, have actually spent thousands of dollars paying dominatrixes to bust our balls and/or fantasizing about the same. It is kind of hard to sympathize entirely with someone who is complaining about something you love/desire so much. I don't think there is any harm in those of us who share the fantasy of having it happen to us expressing that fact, and saying things like "I wish it were me", or "I wouldn't complain if I were him" -- it is a true statement for us.

Hello SplitDik,

How are you? I'm grateful for your response and the candour it contains. I really do appreciate your frank expression of your frustrations and the difficulty you seem to have, in sympathising with the male victim of a sexual attack. However, there's a "flip side". Whilst, you're entitled to your opinion (as am I), your comments run the risk of conveying indifference or callousnes to human suffering.

Here's a potential example, of what I'm speaking of. Many men enjoy or at least fantasise about anal or oral sex with men. Now, if there was a news story, of some young man being attacked for this purpose, would you respond with the same comments? How would YOU feel if, you read such a story and someone posted your comments, along with your rationale for them?

Again, I'm pleased you acknowledged the Colorado IS a crime. I would only ask that, (if possible) you find some room in your heart, to accept that something you enjoy.. might be a nightmare for someone else. Example; I enjoy a kind of "rough sex". However, I would never when, reading about a woman being sexually violated, make the comment "I wished it was me" or "I wouldn't complain If I were her". This would convey insensitivity, at the very least!

Thank you, for your response. I wish you and yours well.

Messalina

[radar (imported)]

I don't know that, I would go so far as to say that the authourities usually "A

rrest the man under the premise th

at he must have somehow provoked the attack

". That isn't "probable ca

use" and would never stand up under judicial review.

No, it's NOT probable cause, but with mandatory arrest laws and feminist indoctrination of both cops and judges, this kind of thing happens all too frequently, and all too often goes well past a simple court hearing. And even if he gets off, once he's been charged, no prosecutor is going to turn around and charge the woman, even if subsequent revelation of the facts would demand it.

See, the problem for the man is, it often doesn't really matter that the charges are ultimately dismissed. He still has all the expenses involved in defending himself, such as a lawyer -- and he absolutely MUST have a lawyer, or he's going to get run over. Then too, dismissal doesn't mean he's not still going to be thought of as an abuser. People tend to automatically believe such accusations, so pervasive is the lie of "only men are violent". Worse, if there's an active feminist group on campus, he's likely to draw protesters who would condemn him regardless of the facts, simply because they want to perpetuate that lie. It is, after all, how they get much of their funding.

There are a lot of double standards at work here.

[Messalina (imported)]

I am most fortunate that I do not need to pay someone to perform CBT on me as my dear wife will do that for me (sometimes she will even initiate the torture). I really do not mean to make light of the incident; it just seems to me to be a ludicrous overreaction on the guy's part. Yes, having ones balls squeezed hard hurts. One or two grabs are not going to be all that painful. To achieve a desirable level of hurt requires repeated mauling of my balls. I guess most vanilla guys just don't get it.

Speed

Hello Speedvogel,

How are you? I'm pleased to learn that, you've a mate who seems to share your fetish and desires. Or at the very least, doesn't mind indulging them. However, my experience ( on, a number of continents) with many men (yes, I'm afraid I'm a bit of the tart <blush>) shows me that, most are what you would call "Vanilla". Actually, the number of men that ENJOY having their genitals abused is a minourity. Now, it may be a rather large minourity (as on boards, like this) but, a minourity nonetheless.

Also, to someone such as yourself that, (apparently) has been involved with CBT, for sometime... "

One or two grabs are not going to be all that painful

" this may indeed, be the case. You may've built up a degree of tolerance. In any event, I would ask you to consider that individual men, may've different levels of tolerance when, it comes to testicular pain. Which, judging by all the occasions where; I've either witnessed, inflicted, or treated testicular pain, that pain has been considerable... if, not agonizing. Hey, but what do I know, I'm just a girl? lol

I would only ask that, you show some compassion for someone who's, level for pain tolerance... might, be different than your own. Also, you might consider the cirmcumstances. This (apparentally) happened in front of his roomate and or new girlfriend. I'm sure this must've been embarrassing for him, if not humiliating. But, this is just speculation on my part. However, it's based on my observations of how men behaved in similar circumstances.

Thank you, for responding to my post.

Warm regards,

Messalina

[Messalina (imported)]

Spedvogel you still don't get a criam has been committed! Messalina is right the felon should and was arrested! That the felon was female not with standing. ___Ernie of Maine______

Hello Ernie,

How are you? Thank you, for your support. However, in fairness to Speedvogel, he did state that, it wasn't his intention to make light of the situation. AND what you intimate is correct. We shall never get a "handle" on domestic violence by operating with double standards. Besides, if women are to be equal in Yank society, then we have to be equal before the law. Yes, we're enititled to it's protection (such as it is) but, we're also accountable to it.

I hope you and yours are well.

Warm regards,

Messalina