Castration for Sex Offenders
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Zoroaster (imported)
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Re: Castration for Sex Offenders
Another thing you need to take into account is what sort of sex offense the person was convicted of. A person who has sex with children might stop because that person is attracted to them sexually and without sex drive they're not attracted to anything. A person who thinks of himself as a rapist will not. It's been clearly shown that a rapist rapes for power, not to get off, unlike a pedophile. Therefore, castrating rapists would not likely have the desired effect. There were German studies back in the 20's that also confirmed this; I can't present my source but it was in some book on the history of eugenics; there can't be that many of them.
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Eu John (imported)
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Re: Castration for Sex Offenders
This is a question that I have been asked several times in the many years that I have been a Eunuch. My answer is yes providing the accused is a repeat offender. I realize that not all of you here are actually Eunuchs, so it may be difficult for one who is not to understand how one of us feels. Fortunately, I have several fellow Veteran friends who are also Eunuchs and we have discussed this and seem to share pretty much the same feelings and desires regarding sex or our lack thereof. Being able to understand how an individuals life would be after he is gelded makes us agree that this sort of operation should be performed on such an offender. I hope this has been of help.
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Charlieje (imported)
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Re: Castration for Sex Offenders
Eu John,
My only problem with mandatory castration, as has already been stated, is that it is a very simple matter to obtain a prescription for hormones, and that could turn a bad situation worse. I had been a eunuch for almost 3 years when I allowed myself to start taking HRT. WOW! Almost instantly I was a raging sex animal with all the desires and abilities of an 18 year old! I really did do some things that I will regret, and pay for, the rest of my life!
My point is, if someone is castrated against his will, how long do you think it will take for him to get his hands on some testosterone? In my opinion, if a person is a sex offender, he or she belongs in jail! Period!
My only problem with mandatory castration, as has already been stated, is that it is a very simple matter to obtain a prescription for hormones, and that could turn a bad situation worse. I had been a eunuch for almost 3 years when I allowed myself to start taking HRT. WOW! Almost instantly I was a raging sex animal with all the desires and abilities of an 18 year old! I really did do some things that I will regret, and pay for, the rest of my life!
My point is, if someone is castrated against his will, how long do you think it will take for him to get his hands on some testosterone? In my opinion, if a person is a sex offender, he or she belongs in jail! Period!
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Re: Castration for Sex Offenders
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> some testosterone?
What about the drug called "Gonex" which destroys the cells in the brain that react to testosterone/estrogen? Does that make it impossible for HRT to work?
Charlieje (imported) wrote: Sat Apr 13, 2002 2:58 pm My point is, if someone is castrated against his will, how
> long do you think it will take for him to get his hands on
> some testosterone?
What about the drug called "Gonex" which destroys the cells in the brain that react to testosterone/estrogen? Does that make it impossible for HRT to work?
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Maybe they should try cutting off the LARGE head on top of the shoulders.
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I understood that it destroys the part of the pitutary gland in the brain that secretes the protien that causes the testicles to secrete testosterone AND the ovaries to secrete estrogen.
The problem is that if this gets into the food chain through hamburger or some such meat that all of the sexual characteristics of the population could be stunted.
Well, just a pet theory of mine, but well-grounded in science...
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e/estrogen? Does that make it impossible for HRT to work?Charlieje (imported) wrote: Sat Apr 13, 2002 2:58 pm My point is, if someone is castrated against his will, how
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> some testosterone?
What about the drug called "Gonex" which destroys the cells in the brain that react to testosteron
I understood that it destroys the part of the pitutary gland in the brain that secretes the protien that causes the testicles to secrete testosterone AND the ovaries to secrete estrogen.
The problem is that if this gets into the food chain through hamburger or some such meat that all of the sexual characteristics of the population could be stunted.
Well, just a pet theory of mine, but well-grounded in science...
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Re: Castration for Sex Offenders
Anything short of total nullification would not be effective for male sex offenders. However, this would be an appropriate punishment for them.
Then, what would be an appropriate punishment for female sex offenders?
Then, what would be an appropriate punishment for female sex offenders?
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Mac (imported) wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2002 9:26 am Anything short of total nullification would not be effective for male sex offenders. However, this would be an appropriate punishment for them.
Then, what would be an appropriate punishment for female sex offenders?
A stint in the dungeon of Master Waddie or myself....and/or a daily appearance on the Jerry Springer Show until they have paid their debt to society, according to their suitability to be allowed in our dungeons.
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Re: Castration for Sex Offenders
Folks,
Doesn't this discussion sort of beg the question of what's wrong with our society in the first place so that it fosters this type of behavior? It's like discussing how to drain the corn field when the subject should really be how to prevent it from becoming flooded in the first place.
I'm not denigrating this thread, I'm just trying to add another dimension to it. And, no, I don't feel that involuntary castration (though it makes great fantasy) would make much of a difference. The urge comes from kinks in a person's character rather than "problematic" testes. How does one's testosterone level relate to female sexual molesters?
When it comes to influences on sexual matters in the US, I tend to cast a very suspicious, almost accusatory, eye towards "Puritan attitudes" -- sexual contact is sinful, for procreation only, not to be discussed (even to the point of educating our children about it!), sexual urges are to be surpressed at all costs because they're impure, and the like.
Whether it's true or not, I view Americans as a whole as having far greater sexual hangups than people in other western cultures, not to mention non-western cultures, and as an extension, all the agressive, non-consentual sexual expression that arises from those hangups.
Regarding the poll, I'd cast my vote for "none of the above," except that it's not a choice.
Doesn't this discussion sort of beg the question of what's wrong with our society in the first place so that it fosters this type of behavior? It's like discussing how to drain the corn field when the subject should really be how to prevent it from becoming flooded in the first place.
I'm not denigrating this thread, I'm just trying to add another dimension to it. And, no, I don't feel that involuntary castration (though it makes great fantasy) would make much of a difference. The urge comes from kinks in a person's character rather than "problematic" testes. How does one's testosterone level relate to female sexual molesters?
When it comes to influences on sexual matters in the US, I tend to cast a very suspicious, almost accusatory, eye towards "Puritan attitudes" -- sexual contact is sinful, for procreation only, not to be discussed (even to the point of educating our children about it!), sexual urges are to be surpressed at all costs because they're impure, and the like.
Whether it's true or not, I view Americans as a whole as having far greater sexual hangups than people in other western cultures, not to mention non-western cultures, and as an extension, all the agressive, non-consentual sexual expression that arises from those hangups.
Regarding the poll, I'd cast my vote for "none of the above," except that it's not a choice.
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I agree with Ilya's comments.
What amazes me most about many of the messages in this thread are the illiberal attitudes displayed, which I find strange for a sexually liberal internet board.
Is this a particularly American phenomenon?
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What amazes me most about many of the messages in this thread are the illiberal attitudes displayed, which I find strange for a sexually liberal internet board.
Is this a particularly American phenomenon?
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