What The Fuck????????

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The basic issue is very clear: if I may borrow some words from A1, a Eunuch is a human with some or all of his or her capacity for sex removed.

Where are all those circumcision boards, Erik? I like circumcision stories too (well, some of them, anyway) and I've searched many times without much success. Post some links for me please! If there are female cutting stories there too, so much the better!

(Disclosure of personal bias: I love penectomy stories best of all, male and female penectomy both almost equally. The lesser forms of eunuchism, which leave more capacity for sexual pleasure - ball-cutting of the male, various forms of other male and female mutilations including but not limited to circumcision - are good story material too, but (for me) can lack dramatic impact.)

The most recent two stories - good Lord! A mere two stories have produced all this fuss?! - they were, if you like, "teasers" - they promised a much bigger result than they delivered. In the first story, the final cutting was rather milder than expected, leaving the girl without quite a lot but still in possession of her clitoris. For me, that was an anti-climax. But that's the thing about stories - if they always deliver exactly what you want, then they are boring and predictable and not worth reading. The key to successful story writing is that it should sometimes deliver exactly what you want. Then the impact is all the greater.

Of course, what you want and what I want and what the next person wants in a story are three different things - or quite possibly five different things. :)

Where do you draw the line between a eunuch story and a circumcision story? It's very difficult. In fact, the best way to draw that line is to follow long standing Eunuch Archive practice and simply not draw it. Censorship here, of all places, would be a terrible thing.

But in bringing this matter up, Erik has done us all a service. He has made it obvious theat the EA story classification system needs revision. Right now we have:

(S)

(G) and

(Bi) classifications. Now it's impossible and probably undesirable to add a wealth of new classifications - apart from anything else it becomes too difficult to decide which exact slot a story fits into - but we clearly would all benefit from having:

(S)

(G)

(Bi) and

(F) for female-cutting stories.

Personally, I would hope that most of the (F) classified stories were to do with female penectomy, not mere circumcision or any other boring minor cut, but that is not for me or for anyone else to decide upon. That has always been, and should rightly remain, a matter for the author's own creative judgement.
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A female becoming a Eunuch in a story is not in question. What's in question is this seems to be turning into a circ board.

Here is a very good link for a few really good stories.

http://www.icon.co.za/~hugot/circum/circum.htm
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Thanks Erik! Neat link. :)

Oh - I nearly forgot. A nice new story you posted yesterday.
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is not a big deal.

I think what bothers the guys here the most is that they do not want anyone telling stories about women getting cut.

One of the first stories that I remember reading on the Archive long before there was a message board was...

http://www.eunuch.org/Alpha/T/newtommy.htm

This story has been here since there were less than 40 stories on the archive. So, you see, circumcision has always been here. What is new is the fact that very seldom were female nullification/circumcision stories posted.

I wish to emphasize that this is neither new nor is it a threat. Most female nullification / circumcision are labeled as such. Even the two that sparked this controversy.

In all fairness I would like to say that the stories posted here depict males who are getting their genitalia cut off who do not deserve it either.

If you are offended by females having it cut off but not offended by males having it cut off then perhaps we need a post to examine why it is that these feelings like this exist.

I contend that restricting the archive in the manner being suggested is censorship.

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PB,

You are welcome for the link.

When will more of TWO SIDES TO EVERY STORY be posted? I am still sitting on the edge of my seat waiting for the ending.

The Tommy's exam story is a classic and very good story. The author never wrote more which is very sad, because the author is a great story teller and at the end left a major hint that there would be a castration coming up in the next installment. If the Author reads this, I request he writes part 2.
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[...]
A-1 (imported) wrote: Sat Apr 06, 2002 5:54 pm After all, the whole point of this place is the elimination of sex.

Why should it be gender restrictive when the point is becoming genderless?
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Thanx A-1!

Youknow...

I don't understand that whole thread.

THINK about it!

There's no difference between male or female castration- fantasies because NOBODY *IS* MALE OR FEMALE!

We are MIXED!

Everybody is, yep.

AND:

Remeber!

One of the greatest aspects of THIS PLACE is again

MIXING!

Mixing of poeple with DIFFERENT desires by the help of one topic!

GOSH, I want to meet people other than me.

Gatherings of people of the same kind always has the taste of self-confirming...

GUSTAV, yep. *GGG (Oh, here it is: :D)
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This thread is about circumsition.

Circumsizing a male or female does not make them a eunuch. It has nothing to do with making a person gendreless.

If you circ a baby boy, that child is still a boy, not a eunuch. You circ a girl, and she is also still a girl, not a eunuch.
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I cannot see if what we think or feel makes one more or less of one sex or the other. I guess the argument always goes to the one who can define the terms.

Is circumcision is part of a progression? Or circumcision is something that is an end in itself? What do you want to believe? If one gets circumcised does that mean that he (or she) will have a tendency to get more of their genitalia cut off? Or, will the cutting just stop with the circumcision?

Did the fall of VietNam lead to the fall of the whole of Southeast Asia into Communism?

If one starts out smoking cigarettes or drinking alcoholic beverages as a teen, do they progress to marijuana and then to cocaine, methamphetimines, LSD and then Heroin?

Does everything work the same way EVERY TIME? What is the answer? Well, it is different things to different people.

Erik, the story "Tommy's Exam" is also posted on at least one other site and in several different versions. I believe that the castration part in the end was added by somebody before they posted it here. It is my belief that the author never intended it to be posted here or if he did he added the castration threat toward the end.

I do not know all of the answers. Hell, I'm not sure that I even know all of the questions. There's one thing that I DO know, however. If the circumcision (male or female) stories bother you, then do not read them. Surely everyone agrees that circumcision for a female can be terrible. It can mean the loss of their sexual responsiveness. Keep in mind that women do not have to orgasm to become pregnant. Men, however, must have at least a type of orgasm to impregnate a female.

The point here is to suggest that circumcision means different things to different people. If we admit to less than that statement then we are in danger of telling people how they feel or at least how they should think. This works both ways, Erik.

Everyone, Erik is NOT right or wrong. He feels like he feels. I am sure that in the end we must allow that so that we may have the same right to our feelings and opinions.

This argument has no valid answer except for us to acknowledge each other's viewpoints, even if we cannot feel the same way.

Let us leave it at that if we may and get on with whatever it is that we do here. We must recognize that we are different and that we think differently.

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I amin agree ment with Eric. I voted no because I am not interested in female circ. I feel that if you do this then you should make another board. This is the eunuchs archive, and not the circ archive🔫🔫 🛸 🔫 🐫 😲 🤮 This is just my opinion. I love these things.
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Good for you!

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