Dr. Kimmel has retired...

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randy (imported) wrote: Mon Jan 19, 2009 7:30 pm Do people remember joe namath for that last crappy year he played with the Rams ? No, they remember him running triumphantly off the field after Super Bowl III with his finger in the air..

Then why is it that I remember him for wearing a pair of pantyhose in a commercial

I've been warpped ever since....

Did Kimmel leave us with a doc willing to fill in?
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balletkyle (imported) wrote: Tue Jan 20, 2009 7:03 pm Did Kimmel leave us with a doc willing to fill in?

Read the thread. Information is given as much as we know at the present.
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It's always better to step down than be forced out. Good for him! I hope he enjoys his new life (retirement)

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Given this retirement news is the request for info on the front page now redundant?

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I am curious about Kimmel and his apparent problems with some patients. It appears to me that surgery in the scrotal area is fraught with problems even in the best of circumstances. If it was done by your local guy you would be back in his office for a checkup at the first sign of trouble. In most of his patient cases they will have returned home and that support is not available. Going to your local urologist is almost automatically going to attract a critical response because of the unusual nature of an elective orchiectomy.

Issues that I wonder about are:

1. The area is prone to infectious agents if not kept meticulously clean. It is adjacent to the anus and the penis can aslo be a source. Plus it is normally sweaty and damp. From the various reports here that I have seen, it doesn't seem that there is any unexpectedly high rate of nfection that would have resulted from improper practice.

2. The problems seem to be typically extended drainage, slow healing, and stiching failures.

I think extended drainage is to be expected in most scrotal orchiectomies. I noted at least one surgical proceedure text book description that referred to leaving a drain in place in the scrotum to allow drainage to escape freely essentially leaving the bottom of the scrotum open until the drainage had ceased. From my various experiments in small scrotal incisions they do not heal quickly and the healing process appears quite different to a small cut elsewhare in the body. May have to do with the moavements ofvarious tiny muscles that cause the scrotum to tighten and loosen. Similarly swelling can be expected and it doesn't surprise me that there will be problems with some of the stitching. If stitching is set too loosely the skin won't be closed up properly and wont heal quickly. If it is set too tightly obviously it will pull loose if swelling occurs.

3. Most orchiectomies these days are done through dual incisions into the inguinal canals above/alongside the penis. I think the reason is that it is then more or less conventional surgery and moves the incision well away from the areas of danger of infection and will avoid the swelling etc that is related to injuring the scrotum and associated. I think that this technique recovers the testicles without invilving the tunica vaginalis(internal pouches that cover each testicle. My guess is that it is damage to this structure that causes much of the problem. Anyone who has had abdominal surgery will know that the skin heals quicky and the stitches can be removed in a few days with out problem.

4. The inguinal approach also allows the cords to be tied off higher up avoiding problems some have had with adhesions and subsequent cord pain.

So I wonder how much of the problem is really Dr Kimmel's practices (clearly from some descriptions there are some issues related to his office and gear there) and how much is the nature of the scrotal orchiectomy beast in the first place. If anyone out there has any experience with a scrotal orchiectomy done in hospital conditions etc it would be interesting to hear how they fared in comparision. My gut feel is that even with the best castration techniques the scrotal approach is likely to have much the same array of problems no matter who does them.🍑👋🍑👋 Is there anyone out there who would do an elective inguinal orchiectomy??
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While I am sorry to see that the eunuch community no longer has a no questions asked option to seek castration, I am glad that Kimmel (presumably) chose to step down before he harmed anyone worse than he already had. That being said, I feel it appropriate to honor Dr. Kimmel for his
randy (imported) wrote: Mon Jan 19, 2009 7:30 pm many years of service to the eunuch community.
Many are thankful for what he was willing to do. I wish him the best for his future.
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As much as I have tried to put thoughts of castration out of my mind, (and I have really tried) it isn't working.

With Kimmel out of the picture, I did some review on the EA site on burdizzo.

At the outset, it appears that burdizzo not the way to go. The burdizzo tool was designed for non-humans, and is used with little to no consideration for the pain that it envokes.

But I just can't help thinking that there must be someone, somewhere who has developed a tool that is designed for human sized scrotum and testicles and will effectively crush the human testicle cords, effectively destroying each testicle, one at a time.

Undoubtedly, not a painless procedure, but a tool and procedure designed that is easier to use and more effective than the traditional farm animal burdizzo. .

As they say, hope springs eternal. I just can't help thinking that crushing the cords might be a preferable method of eliminating the testicles than any surgical procedure.

As lease I can hope. Even if surgery was an option, I couldn't afford it anyway, but I could save enough for an "HCT" (human castration tool....not FDA approved of course).

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Reflections and wish list regarding Dr. Kimmel.

1 - I wish Dr. Kimmel would give us an exact number of men he castrated throughout his long career.

2 - I wish Dr. Kimmel would write a book, his memoirs, with input from Mary his secretary & Joe, his male nurse. I'm sure it would be filled with interesting material.

3 - I wish Mary would write about her experiences with Dr. Kimmel and the men who came in to be castrated. She has to be someone who could reveal the truth about the good doctor. I would love to find out where she's at and what she's doing.

4 - I would love to know exactly where Dr. Kimmel is and what his condition is physically. We should, as a community send him our "best wishes." Despite his mess ups, I will always be indebted to him. Castrated by Kimmel, March 2006.

5 - Who was the first man castrated by Dr. K and who was the lucky last man castrated by Dr. K?

Please add to the wish list and help me find Mary to interview!
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The Cut high and inject the cords (Testes?) with nerve blocks for chronic pain cases is sort of the newer and improved-er way to do things. And Inguinal (or Radical) Orchiectomy has the advantage of having the incisions in a less "dirty" area. However they do leave you with a nice set of matching scars.

The medical papers showing the inguinal approach being more effective as a cure for chronic testicular pains are less then 10 years old. Dr Kimmel has been doing this for? And of course many (most?) of his patients are not Orchialgia patients *Although I'm sure some were. I'm not sure how long the idea of using nerve blocks on tissue that goes through the Trauma of amputation is but my guess is that this solution for Phantom Pains is fairly new as well.

Regardless of the reason for getting an Orchiectomy be it TS, M2E or whatever I do think this is the right approach.
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When I met Dr. Kimmel, I was very impressed with him. However, the subsequent problems with my own surgery and that of several other patients, made me realize that despite being a "nice guy", Dr. Kimmel should not have been practicing medicine at his advanced age.

I do wish him well despite what happened.
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