TRT My opinions and options that may be available.

[Testman (imported)]

I keep my total cholesterol at 135 all the time. Flaxseed oil lowers the daylights out of cholesterol. I knew a guy who took his from over 300 to 125 or so without even changing his diet, just by taking in plenty of Flaxseed oil. It also works better if you take it when you eat any carbohydrates. I use just a teaspoon at every meal. It also raises the good, and lowers the bad. Though I don't have the exact numbers to give in an example.

[sduyck_2000 (imported)]

plix

my hdl tested 27 as well

colesterol 170

i guess it is just a side effect of hrt

my vitamin d was also in the dumper..my summer reserve didnt last as long as i hoped it would

i am now on 1000iu a day

get tested in 2 months again

i have used andromen forte from lawly pharmaceuticals in australia

i talked to the pharmacists at length by email before i purchased any

a tube costs 100$

and will last 100 days at the right dosage

thats a 1$ a day..androgel is 4$ a day

they just mail it to me

androgel is worthless for creating libido

my insurance pays for the androgel so i get it free

i save the andromen for sex with my wife..2 or 3 days before the weekend i apply it to my srotum..i will be in a constant state of arousal for 3 days after i stop using it

androgel has no such effect

i went to my doctor last week and had blood drawn to see how well the andromen worked..i tested 8.8 which was off the top of the scale

there are receptors in the scrotum for t that are not in the skin of the shoulders

that makes all the differance

androgel always tested 3 to 4 on the scale which goes from 2 to 8

i have been using it for a year ..my doctor gave me a clean bill of health..no problems

[gandalf (imported)]

My family dr. (not my urologist) was a little concerned with the level of my good cholesterol Last May. He recommended I drink a glass of red wine a day. Notice I said "red wine". the only thing with that is when I drink red wine, even a few sips I get a nasty headache. Well, with the internet search programs, I found out that pure (or regular) Concord Grape Juice would achieve the same thing. So I started on it. IN Nov. when I had my cholesterol checked, the Dr. was very happy with my new reading on good cholesterol. I am on lipitor but it was not raising my good cholesterol as much as he wanted. The grape juice did it for me and I don't have to travel 50+ miles for a bottle of wine and get caught transporting alcohol in a dry county.

[sduyck_2000 (imported)]

i guess it really depends what state of mind the women is in

i personally know 5 women that just love castrated men ..2 of them like to make them that way..so maybe those dont count

if they really dont want to get pregnant one good feel assures them they are completely safe

my wife revels in my castrated state knowing she can never get pregnant as she has used nothing for almost 20 years..maybe she has just been around me too long..she looks at other guys..then the thought of sex with them scares her as she sees those testicles waving in the breeze.

I guess by the Dr Roberts type I meant one that is "fringe" ie doing things that are outside of the mainstream. I would list for example Dr Kimmel that way as how he works is clearly different from the norm. I think you need to work with a doctor that works for you. You and I might have very different ideas on what is safe etc but this is what you have to do for yourself and we can simply agree to d

isagree.

Anyway outside of that...

I DO understand what your saying about your testicle size. Mine were atrophied to pre-pube levels and whew... this really sucked. I've had that "where did they go" comment because they got so tiny they were always stuck up inside me. Not good for the male ego... The main reason I had them removed was chronic pains but as I told my GP the whole size issue was a serious part of my consideration over how to deal with it. Getting adult sized implants made having the surgery a little easier and I suppose I was one of the few people to get a bilateral orchiectomy that was smiling on the way to the OR. I feel pretty good about the results. No, I feel REALLY good about my choice. Pain = zero. Thats huge... And so am I! Thats pretty great as well.

[mrt (imported)]

Well of course when your new "Testicles" are made of Silicone there is very little worry about pregnancy! Plus you can ride a horse and take a shot to the nuts and not keel over screaming in pain!

i guess it really depends what state of mind the women is in

i personally know 5 women that just love castrated men ..2 of them like to make them that way..so maybe those dont count

if they really dont want to get pregnant one good feel assures them they are completely safe

my wife revels in my castrated state knowing she can never get pregnant as she has used nothing for almost 20 years..maybe she has just been around me too long..she looks at other guys..then the thought of sex with them scares her as she sees those testicles waving in the breeze.

[mrt (imported)]

I would have sworn your post said it "is" legal to import. I guess my eyeballs were sending me the wrong info based on your continued messages about it being ok and that its not enforced. Now I see I was wrong. And I do apologize.

T-man Its true what you say but I think your confusing the current situation where people are importing fake Viagra and Lipitor pills and being given a pass because they are not sched III (for one thing) and they are being swamped by all this stupid stuff. Are guys importing things like Ultram and Morphine etc and getting away with it? I have no doubt some are. I even suspect you agree with me that once someone gets it in their head and finds this those people are going to be looking at jail time and fines. And yes, you and I agree to a point that small quantities will raise less "noise" then someone importing big cartons of the stuff because size is an indication that they will be selling it and thats of more interest. But "can" they make a point on some guy ordering his own Testosterone? Yes. And have they? Yes. Will they again? Sure. And what do you tell that guy who followed your advise? "Gee I'm sorry you facing jail time and a fine - Sorry... It doesn't normally happen?" And why should any one of us who needs Testosterone tempt fate? Thats really the part I don't get about your posts? What doctor would be unwilling to prescribe HRT for a guy without Testicles? I just don't understand your motivation my friend.

I think in part you and I have a basic disagreement because I think buying drugs (Even Viagra and Lipitor etc) from the internet is very dangerous if nothing else. Who knows what you get? The stuff I've seen (Like the 60 minutes piece) scares the holy hell out of me. Large factories using machines to smash up sheetrock, paint it blue and sell it as "Viagra" Places making worthless heart drugs etc. Some of this stuff even gets into the US system which really chills me. How? They have the money from suckers buying this to make better fakes and package them so they look real. And yes, I understand that some internet pharmacies are legit but how many aren't? And anytime your taking prescription drugs without a doctor? Well its like being your own lawyer (I think)

I guess we disagree with the danger of using megadoses of steroids. And I love people on the internet who claim to be experts. Anyone can post a message and say "This is my field" How would anyone of us know that? Do you have a doctors degree? In what? Endro? Doctor of Herbal studies from the Rolling Stone Magazine? Have you written some papers on the topic? I'm sorry that doesn't carry any water because you can post a message saying your President Obama. It doesn't make it so. Cite some facts or quote a book that shows mega doses are good for you. Seriously - I would really like to see that!

I'm no expert but I've read a few books. (* And I can look up the current US laws.) I thought the one by Conceco's wife (As one example) was pretty sad. His misuse of steroids clearly didn't improve his life or health. I think at the very least you have people fucking up their testicles so they will never recover when they do long term use. And what about these (so called) "Athletes"? Don't you think these people are at best just cheats? Remember the Russian Womens team that won all those gold medals before they started cracking down? Was that fair? Look at all these guys in the Wresting world and the health problems they have. Not to mention the Frankenstein heads!

And I have to suggest you read my post.

You really shouldn't have such a knee jerk reaction when I make a post.

I didn't say it wasn't controlled! I said it is not usually enforced. There is no damage in mega doses. That's why it is so odd it is controlled. This is my field, I generally know WTF is up, as I have to keep my head up. I know a lawyer who is an expert in this field, and I keep up with the current happenings. I know guys who could wallpaper their rooms with customs seizure letters. They almost never do a controlled delivery when the amount is small.

Also, you need to remember that the federal laws are almost always more lenient than the state laws. Thats why when it's a small amount, the feds don't even go after you, but the state still might, as in one state even a small amount they may get an conviction. But in some states, steroids isn't even a felony at all! In such states, importing small amounts is 99% of the time, completely ignored. For example, in my state, I could get caught selling it, and it won't even go on my record the first offense and still isn't even a felony.

I read a book about this whole "anabolic steroid control act nonsense" by that steroid lawyer, and did you know that the AMA, DEA, FDA, and one other agency, I forgot the name, were all strongly against steroids becoming controlled because they said they were not harmful. Thats the media you're listening to saying this nonsense. It was Joe Biden and some clever trickery with the help of the mass media, that got these hormones placed on the controlled list, and actually even them doing so wasn't entirely legal for them to do so. Steroids don't meat the criteria necessary to be on that list. Maybe the C4 or higher, but not no 3. BTW, that asshole Biden recently tried making them CI. Luckily he failed. Its amazing how much power just one politician can have, given that five government and medical organization were against scheduling, but the media and Biden were for it, so it happened. Anyway, the DEA still doesn't enforce this as much as you seem to want to believe.

[sduyck_2000 (imported)]

i dont know if this helps much

this is from the fda manual

FDA Policy Statement

"The United States Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act (Act) (21 U.S.C. section 331) prohibits the interstate shipment (which includes importation) of unapproved new drugs. Thus, the importation of drugs that lack FDA approval, whether for personal use or otherwise, violates the Act. Unapproved new drugs are any drugs, including foreign-made versions of U.S. approved drugs, that have not been manufactured in accordance with and pursuant to an FDA approval. Under the Act, FDA may refuse admission to any drug that "appears" to be unapproved, placing the burden on the importer to prove that the drug sought to be imported is in fact approved by FDA. Absent evidence that the specific drugs sought to be imported from a foreign country have been manufactured pursuant to an approved new drug application, in the manufacturing facility permitted under the application, such drugs would appear to be unapproved new drugs subject to FDA enforcement action.

"The use of FDA resources to provide comprehensive coverage of unapproved new drugs imported for personal use is generally not justified, however, the agency developed guidance in its Regulation Procedures Manual (RPM) entitled "Coverage of Personal Importations". This guidance sets forth the agency's enforcement priorities related to the personal importation of unapproved new drugs, with enforcement being focused on products apparently intended for the commercial market and on fraudulent products and those that pose an unreasonable health risk. The guidance recognizes that circumstances may exist where, for example, a person has begun treatment with an unapproved drug in a foreign country or suffers from a condition for which there exists no FDA approved treatment. If such circumstances can be substantiated, as the text of the guidance quoted below notes, the guidance suggests that refraining from taking action against the illegal importation , in the exercise of enforcement discretion, may be appropriate. The guidance document is not, however, a license for individuals to import unapproved (and therefore illegal) drugs for personal use into the U.S., and even if all the factors noted in the guidance are present, the drugs remain illegal and FDA may decide that such drugs should be refused entry or seized. Similarly, the factors noted in the guidance, and documentation that should be obtained from individuals importing the drugs, are not mandatory requirements. They are intended to guide FDA enforcement discretion and should not be represented as binding requirements. The statements in the RPM are intended only to provide operating guidance for FDA personnel and are not intended to create or confer any rights, privileges, or benefits on or for any private person.

"That said, FDA's guidance for coverage of personal importations of unapproved drugs identifies several factors that should be considered by FDA personnel when determining whether to exercise enforcement discretion and refrain from taking action against the importation of unapproved drugs. The General Guidance Section states that FDA should consider not taking enforcement actions against such importation:

'when 1) the intended use [of the drug] is unapproved and for a serious condition for which effective treatment may not be available domestically either through commercial or clinical means; 2) there is no known commercialization or promotion to persons residing in the U.S. by those involved in the distribution of the product at issue; 3) the product is considered not to represent an unreasonable risk; and 4) the individual seeking to import the product affirms in writing that it is for the patient's own use (generally not more than 3 month supply) and provides the name and address of the doctor licensed in the U.S. responsible for his or her treatment with the product or provides evidence that the product is for the continuation of a treatment begun in a foreign country.' (Emphasis added)

"The above guidance does not specify that a U.S. citizen may import an unapproved drug only with a prescription from a U.S. licensed physician, or that a foreign citizen may import an unapproved new drug only with a foreign prescription. Rather, to ensure that the importation is for personal use only (and not for resale), and to ensure that the use of the unapproved new drug sought to be imported into the U.S. is supervised and does not represent an unreasonable risk, the guidance provides that the individual affirm in writing that the drug is for his or her personal use, and provide either the name and address of the U.S. licensed physician who will supervise its use or some evidence that the treatment was begun in a foreign country and that the drugs are being imported to continue/conclude the already begun treatment. Thus, while not the only documentation, either a U.S. or foreign prescription, along with an affirmation of personal use, could be supplied as evidence that this factor exists.

"The guidance also provides that the importation should generally not represent more than a 3 month supply of the unapproved products. The purpose for this provision is in keeping with the intent that the guidance relate to only drugs for personal use, not commercial distribution. As the document sets forth only guidance, the 3 month limitation is not a "requirement" or a "restriction." If an individual presents evidence that he or she requires more than a 3 month supply for the full treatment of his or her illness, and it appears that the reordering of a one or two month additional amount may be inappropriate, FDA may consider the release of the full amount. Similarly, if a foreign traveler to the U.S. seeks to import unapproved drugs during his or her stay in the U.S., the amount sought to be imported should represent the amount needed for personal use during the U.S. visit. Where the evidence appears to indicate that the drugs may be imported for commercial distribution, the guidance provides that FDA should refuse admission of such drugs.

"It must be emphasized that the intent of the personal use importation guidance is to save FDA resources and to generally permit, through the exercise of enforcement discretion, medical treatments sought by individuals that are not otherwise available in the United States (where such treatments are not promoted/commercialized in the U.S.). Thus, foreign-made chemical versions of drugs available in the U.S. are not intended to be covered by the policy. For example, a person may decide that his or her FDA approved heart medication is cheaper in Mexico, and attempt to import the unapproved version of the drug from Mexico. FDA cannot assure that such products have been properly manufactured and are effective; therefore, given that such products are available in the U.S., their use would present an unreasonable risk and the guidance would not apply (unless the person seeking their importation could establish that the drugs were needed to refill a prescription while traveling or were otherwise needed while traveling).

"Likewise, a drug such as Valium is available in the U.S. and, as such, a foreign-made version of the U.S. approved drug would not generally be considered a candidate to be permitted entry under the guidance. However, because the United States Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) may have specific requirements that apply to the importation of controlled substances such as Valium, FDA's guidance on personal importation specifically provides that controlled substances should be returned to Customs for handling.

"FDA will not approve a particular form or format for information to accompany personal use shipments, or approve any scheme proposed to facilitate the importation of an unapproved new drug, because to do so would be to imply that such importation meets FDA's personal importation guidance and is legally permitted.

"Congress has the power to determine which articles may be permitted importation into the United States from a foreign source and the terms upon which the importation will occur. An article subject to the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act is still in "interstate commerce" even if it is purchased before being shipped across state lines. This is true even if the article is intended solely for personal consumption. Therefore, the Act properly regulates personal articles imported into the United States for personal consumption. The Act also prohibits the importation into the United States of any unapproved new drug.

"We appreciate that there is a significant cost differential between drugs available here and those in other countries. However, many drugs sold in foreign countries as "foreign versions" of approved prescription drugs sold in the United States are often of unknown quality with inadequate directions for use and may pose a risk to the patient's health. FDA approves a drug on the basis of scientific data proving it to be safe and effective. FDA approved labeling provides information on how and when the drug can be used to maximize effectiveness and minimize any harmful side effects. The manufacturing facilities and procedures for approved products are also carefully regulated by FDA to ensure product integrity. Since FDA cannot assure the consumer that the drug purchased in the foreign country would be the same product his or her physician's prescription is written for, we recommend the product covered by the prescription be acquired in the United States."

[Uncle Flo (imported)]

mrt: Ultram is not a schedule III substance. --FLO--

[mrt (imported)]

mrt: Ultram is not a schedule III substance. --FLO--

I was reading about it being abused and that experts were asking the FDA to make it Sched II (or III) HOPEFULLY that will change. Now its??? I'm not sure...

For those not reading such stuff its a synthetic narcotic and apparently the drug abusers buy it through the internet or OTC in Canada!?? *That can't be right? Anyway more ways to get hooked on drugs SIGH...

[Uncle Flo (imported)]

Ultram is available over the counter almost everywhere but in the U.S.(as are many anti-pain meds) The FDA doesn't classify it as a narcotic and believes the potential for abuse is on a par with prescription NSAIDS. I have used it and can testify that the pain relief ability of Ultram is very limited. At twice the recommended dose I get less relief (and zero buzz) than with half the recommended dose of Percs. It is low level pain relief and was designed to have low abuse potential as a codine substitute. --FLO--