The mystery of eunuchism

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FianceeUvBigGuy (imported) wrote: Mon Nov 10, 2008 1:54 am Yoli here,

For me, at least, there IS a certain mystic quality to castration and eunuchs, mostly related to:

If Marlene's BF ever gives up his testicles it's a fair guess that it will be as an act of submission and commitment to Marlene.

This sums up my interest in castration. As a submissive male it would be the ultimate to offer my testicles to the Woman i loved and cherished. It is something i've fantasized about since i was a teenager and it strikes at the heart of being submissive. What a thrill it is to imagine being ball-less and having a Goddess control my testosterone levels by deciding when i am allowed to receive testostorne hormone replacement. It also goes along with my interest in being in a cuckold relationship.

While i've researched all the side effects and safety concerns for years, what keeps me from carrying it out is a partner who is willing to take it from fantasy to reality. i've also come to understand that the thrill of being castrated is fueled by my sex drive and testosterone hormone treatment might not bring the "excitement of being a eunuch" to the same level.

i know this is just my own personal account and not typical of others and no one's story is the same or is one better or worse than anyone elses. :)
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Yoli here,
FianceeUvBigGuy (imported) wrote: Mon Nov 10, 2008 1:54 am The Thai ladyboy who has entered my sexual realm was castrated, by choice, at a very tender age in order to "commit" to being, if not a true female, at least of a third gender and definitely NOT a male. "She" has no desire to lose "her" penis, as she realizes that, despite the tales to the contrary, the number of persons who've undergone total SRS and who have truly satisfying sex (orgasms a requirement here) are few in number.

The other Houston eunuch was castrated by choice, or so he states. He claims it was "Something I wanted to do and I'm content with it.".

If Marlene's BF ever gives up his testicles it's a fair guess that it will be as an act of submission and commitment to Marlene. The problem with that is that they are very active sexually (I ought to know. I've seen them in action often enough.) and I wonder if, once his balls are taken off, they'll resort to HRT in order to carry on as before. Were I to wager, I'd bet in favor of his balls staying right where they are unless she marries him. If and when they are married, my money will be on some sort of ritual castration. I and some of the Koven will, no doubt, be guests thereat.

On both comments I wanted to inject my 2 cents.

Some TS m2F people do report problems reaching orgasm. Many natal women have problems reaching the big "O" and almost all would agree its trying to expect vaginal intercourse to cause it when that rarely if ever does the trick without lots of attention to the clitoris. On both the TS people and your sexually active (intact) friend who may some day join our club hormones and in particular Testosterone is the fuel that makes men crave sex. For M2F transexuals most are focused on getting rid of their testicles (for obvious reasons) and do whatever they can to shut off as much Testosterone as they can. What they don't understand (in my opinion) is that there is a normal level of Testosterone in natal women thats needed for things like sex drive and they should be taking a mix of hormones and NOT just estrogen post GRS to have a more accurate female mix. For men who have had an orchiectomy they need to get to the right levels of Testosterone and keep an eye on other hormones to have a nice normal "male" like life. Its NOT just one dose fits all.

Trust me...

Once you do however your friend and his girlfriend / wife should be happily humping on a daily basis and the best part is NO BLUE BALLS! and (I think) little to no refactory period so "he" will have one of the perks women have had an exclusive on. Anyway ask Berry if thats his experience and YES his mother should be slowly roasted over a fire.
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homptydumpty (imported) wrote: Sun Nov 09, 2008 7:11 pm The reasons are many. I wanted not to become more than i already was. The thought of being a gay man scared me. I am not that and never felt that i was. In a way i hope to stay forever young. At a young age i began attracting much older men, who would pursue me for sex. I liked the attention, yet as time passed i started to ponder why men had sought me for sex alone. one of the reasons i came up with was my genitals. so i thought to have them removed.

Homptydumpty,

Does this mean that you were looking to get rid of a problem, rather than modifing your body to suit your soul?
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Hi, I'm new here and this is my first post. I became one officially less than a week ago. I'm a pre-op transsexual and was advised by my doctors to have it done to reduce the risks of the high dose hormone and anti-androgen drugs I was taking. I'm still sore and browsing this forum and wondering what its going to be like in a month or a year. Anyway, thats why I became this way.
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I think like there are many variables involved in why a man would seek castration. I know for me, I feel I would be complete after castration. I seek the calm, asexual life of a eunuch. However that is just me, the reasons are as vast as there are members to this site.
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The more I read of others reasons, fantasies, and experiences the more I come to grips with my own reason, real reason, for wanting to be a physical (not chemical) eunuch.

In earlier posts I came up with not reasons, but smokescreens, excuses, facades. My various posts are almost like I have sat through multiple psychiatric sessions to get to this point where I am in my own mind. I won't go to a psychiatrist or psychologist so this barrier makes it difficult to get legally castrated chemically or physically.

When all is said and done the real true reason I have always wanted to be castrated is quite simple, but perhaps sad.

In my early years being homosexual was almost akin to being a child molester. In fact the two conditions were regularly associated as one in the same. Nowdays we know that pedophiles, usually males....but not always, some will prefer girls some will prefer boys. But pedophilia is not the same condition as homosexuality. Pedophiles take advantage of those who are not participants, can't defend themselves, and they are only seeking self gratification, not mutual gratification. I was never a pedophile, except technically/legally once when I was of legal age and fooled by someone who was underage........walked on thin ice with blindfold on that day. It wasnt' clinical pedophilia since we were both mutually consenting, but I was a legal adult and he was legally underage so that could have been a life altering disaster. Scared the stuffing out of me when I found out he was underage. I was tempted to break off more than just the relationship.

Anywhooooooo......... the point is that back in those days one had to live ones homosexual life in the underworld, which was very frustrating. I essentially developed a split personality that lasted with me all my life. Through college, through my Navy-Vietnam years, and through all those years I spent in the corporate world. There was the public, straight me, and the private gay me. I actually managed to keep both lives separate, though it placed a heavy burden on me having to not just be me-me 24 hours a day.

But worse than that, I really really wanted to be part of the "normal" world without having to live a sham. But I enjoyed MM sex, was revolted at the thought of MF sex or even having MF relationships and this left me in a middle world.

I can conclude now that from an early age I wanted to be castrated so that I would not be gay. I wouldn't be hetro, but at least I wouldn't be gay. As much as I enjoyed being gay I wanted to merge and mingle and become a part of the non-gay world and if I could cut off my balls I would be free from all sex which would be perfect. I could claim it was due to medical reasons and I could thus avoid MF relations and sex and would be free from my desire for MM relations and sex. Seemed like a simple, but not so simple, solution.

Remember this was 40+ years ago. It's a different world today, thankfully.

I did even have some thoughts of suicide but never engaged those seriously. Homos were scorned and shunned even more than blacks were back then. Blacks had to sit on the back of the bus and had separate water fountains but homos were better dead than alive...after all homos were perverts, same as child molesters. I knew I wasn't a child molester but I did have to live for decades thinking I was a pervert, which was a hard rock to swallow because I knew my lifestyle was not of my own choosing; it just was, even though I didn't know why. (Now I realize it's nature's way of helping to control overpopulation ! If throughout the ages if true homosexuals had stopped pretending to be straight and stopped making babies perhaps we wouldn't be so overpopulated today as we are).

In conclusion I can easily imagine that practically everyone who wants to be castrated, except for some cultural/social/religious ceremonies, but everyone who wants to remain male in body and identity but wants to be free of their sexuality has one or more life experiences that have influenced that desire. Some will never know why and the reason(s) will remain a mystery.

Since I can't change the past and can't or won't undo the reasons why I want to be a eunuch I shall continue to wish for it. It does seem however that since my testosterone level has dropped my craving to be physically castrated and become a eunuch has lessened. While I have always sought the final cut, thinking that physical physical castration was the only answer, I am now beginning to be more open to the idea of chemical castration. If that achieves what I inwardly desire than I can avoid the surgical pitfalls that others seem to have had.

A long post and sorry for that. But this has been good therapy for me and if my experiences and thoughts can help others to work through their reason(s) for wanting to be castrated then perhaps all this typing and blah blah blah was worth the time it took for me to create it and you to read it. There is no one universal answer. It's so cool that everyone's life is totally unique and so sad that so many people want to control how others live their lives. I can put up with people being judgemental of other people, but I won't put up with judgemental people trying to control how others live.
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aLie2Live (imported) wrote: Mon Nov 24, 2008 9:04 pm Hi, I'm new here and this is my first post. I became one officially less than a week ago. I'm a pre-op transsexual and was advised by my doctors to have it done to reduce the risks of the high dose hormone and anti-androgen drugs I was taking. I'm still sore and browsing this forum and wondering what its going to be like in a month or a year. Anyway, thats why I became this way.

Keep the jock and fluff on at night, don't sneeze or laugh without leaning forward and take your meds! Pain is no fun! And if your still taking the heavy meds take your laxatives!

Good luck and congrats.
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Thanks Mr. T!

I like your pic. I was a big fan of yours in the 80's. I'm doing ok thus far. It is a bit painful but they were nice enough to give me a big bottle of Percocet :) As for the laxative I find that taking a small dose of my Adderall works great for that! I didn't go for like 5 days and then after dosing I went like every 15 minutes for the next four hours!

nullorchis

I read your entire post and your reasons makes complete sense to me. It sounds like you have had plenty of time to think about this. Why NOT try chemical castration first? I was on it for 6, 7, 8? years and it was fine. Your going to be taking drugs probably twice or three times a day like I was but probably not as many since I was taking estrogen as well to feminize my body. It's really rough getting used to at first but after a month or two your body adjusts to the hormone blockers and then its just a routine of taking them everyday. The good thing is you can go off them at any time and your body will revert back to factory settings unlike actual castration. Although if you on them for years like me you might have some permanent effects such as being sterile but your doctor can tell you all that. Hormones and hormone blockers are powerful drugs so make sure you see a doctor and don't order them over the net or something. You need medical supervision and blood tests and all that.

My other thought about your post is that your right, this IS a different world today. I can assure you that nobody really gives a shit if your gay or not these days. Everyone is to worried about themselves to care what your into. Gays are not seen as pedophiles either anymore ( at least not to my knowledge but I know where your coming from feeling like your living in a world that doesn't want or understand you. Indecision is a bitch though and making some decision will probably make you feel more in control of the situation.

aLie2Live ---
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Thanks Mr. T!
aLie2Live (imported) wrote: Tue Nov 25, 2008 10:35 am My other thought about your post is that your right, this IS a different world today. I can assure you that nobody really gives a shit if your gay or not these days. Everyone is to worried about themselves to care what your into. Gays are not seen as pedophiles either anymore ( at least not to my knowledge but I know where your coming from feeling like your living in a world that doesn't want or understand you. Indecision is a bitch though and making some decision will probably make you feel more in control of the situation.

aLie2Live ---

Where are you living? I'm not gay, but many of my friends are, and even in my own neighborhood I am often the target of subtle (and not so subtle) homophobia because of "guilt" by association. Out here, on the left coast, nobody was supposed to care about your sexual orientation, but they just passed the, now infamous, Proposition 8 out here. Unfortunately, there are still many people that you don't have to scratch very deeply to find they are homophobic. Your sexual orientation and gender identity should be your own business, and only your own business, but the world I see still has a LONG way to go to before it's that different.
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I know where you're coming from. When I was a teenager, homosexuals were regarded as filthy, unnatural, vile, evil, disgusting, contemptible, well, you get the idea. I was fifteen when I suddenly realized that I was "one of THOSE".

I couldn't even stand to look myself in the face in the mirror, but, inasmuch as I'd started shaving, I had to. I wanted to kill myself. Whoever called suicide "the coward's way out" was a damned fool. Suicide takes COURAGE, more than I ever had.

One day, after another aborted attempt, I said to myself, aloud, "It's no use; I just don't have balls to do it." 💡 EUREKA ! If I really didn't have balls, I wouldn't NEED to do it. That was when and how my interest in castration started.
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