More Biblical Conundrums

[augman7518 (imported)]

FROM A LIST OF embarassing Bible questions

1 Do you realy beleive that Noah was 500 years out when he fathered his first child ?(Gensis 5;32)

2 Why was it ok for God to destroy the sinfull city of Sodom,but not ok to destroy Lots daughters when they had sex with him ?(gensis 19;30-36)

3 Do you beleve that anyone who works on a releegious day of rest should be killed?(Exodus 31;15)

4 Do you believe that children should be put to death for the sins of their parents?(11Samuel 2;2-4,14-27.12;9-19)

5 How come Gor rewarted Abraham andLot with earthy riches but Jeasus said that wealth is a one way ticket to hell?(Genesis 24;34-35,Job 42;10-12,Mathew (19;24)

6 D0 you believe in slavery?Then why do the apostoles Paul and Peter encourage slaves to be obediant? (Ephesians 6;5-7,1 Peter 2;18)

[randy (imported)]

FROM A LIST OF embarassing Bible questions

1 Do you realy beleive that Noah was 500 years out when he fathered his first child ?(Gensis 5;32)

yes. After the fall, the genetic line of Adam and his descendents was very pure, so their health would have been incredible. Living that long would not have been a problem. Also, some theologians think that there was a canopy of water that engulfed the entire earth and that it was released at the time of the flood. "In the six hundredth year of Noah's life , in the second month, on the seventeenth day of the month, on the same day all the fountains of the great deep burst open, and the floodgates of the sky were opened," (Gen. 7:11). The "floodgates of the sky" are sometimes alluded to as great amounts of water suspended in the sky. Also, no rain is recorded in the Bible until after the flood which seems to support this idea. This canopy, if it is true, might have provided some sort of protection from the sun's harmful rays. We can't know for sure and it is only a theory. Nevertheless, after the flood, the lifespan of people on earth was drastically reduced. "Then the LORD said, "My Spirit shall not strive with man forever, because he also is flesh; nevertheless his days shall be one hundred and twenty years," (Gen. 6:3). Whether or not this reduced canopy had any affect on human lifespan may never be known.

2 Why was it ok for God to destroy the sinfull city of Sodom,but not ok to destroy Lots daughters when they had sex with him ?(gensis 19;30-36

Lots daughters thought they were the last people on earth. I was not an act of sin, something Sodom was eaten up with.

31 And the firstborn said unto the younger, Our father is old, and there is not a man in the earth to come in unto us after the manner of all the earth:

32 Come, let us make our father drink wine, and we will lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father.

3 Do you beleve that anyone who works on a releegious day of rest should be killed?(Exodus 31;15)

Keep the Sabbath

(Exodus 20:8) - "Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9 "Six days you shall labor and do all your work,

(Exodus 23:12) - "Six days you are to do your work, but on the seventh day you shall cease from labor in order that your ox and your donkey may rest, and the son of your female slave, as well as your stranger, may refresh themselves."

(Exodus 31:15) - "For six days work may be done, but on the seventh day there is a sabbath of complete rest, holy to the Lord; whoever does any work on the sabbath day shall surely be put to death."

(Deuteronomy 5:12) - "Observe the sabbath day to keep it holy, as the Lord your God commanded you."

(Leviticus 26:2) - "You shall keep My sabbaths and reverence My sanctuary; I am the Lord."

Don't keep the Sabbath:

(Romans 14:5) - "One man regards one day above another, another regards every day alike. Let each man be fully convinced in his own mind."

(Colossians 2:16) - "Therefore let no one act as your judge in regard to food or drink or in respect to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath day."

It was the custom of the Jews to come together on the Sabbath, which is Saturday, cease work, and worship God. Of the 10 commandments listed in Exodus 20:1-17, only nine of them were reinstituted by in the New Testament. (Six in Matthew 19:18, murder, adultery, stealing, false witness, honor parents, and worshiping God; Romans 13:9, coveting. Worshiping God properly covers the first three commandments) The one that was not reaffirmed was the one about the Sabbath. Instead, Jesus said that He is the Lord of the Sabbath (Matt. 12:8).

In creation God rested on the seventh day. But, since God is all powerful, He doesn’t get tired. He doesn’t need to take a break and rest. So, why did does it say that He rested? The reason is simple: Mark 2:27 says, "The Sabbath was made for man, and not man for the Sabbath." In other words, God established the Sabbath as a rest for His people, not because He needed a break, but because we are mortal and need a time of rest, of focus on God. In this, our spirits and bodies are both renewed.

The O.T. system of Law required keeping the Sabbath as part of the overall moral, legal, and sacrificial system by which the Jewish people satisfied God’s requirements for behavior, government, and forgiveness of sins. The Sabbath was part of the Law in that sense. In order to "remain" in favor with God, you had to also keep the Sabbath. If it was not kept, then the person was in sin and would often be punished (Ezekiel 18:4; Rom. 6:23; Deut. 13:1-9; Num. 35:31; Lev. 20:2, etc.).

But with Jesus’ atonement, and justification by faith (Rom. 5:1), we no longer are required to keep the Law and hence the Sabbath which was only a shadow of things to come (Col. 2:16-17). We are not under Law, but grace (Rom. 6:14-15). The Sabbath is fulfilled in Jesus because in Him we have rest (Matt. 11:28). We are not under obligation to keep the Law and this goes for the Sabbath as well.

4 Do you believe that children should be put to death for the sins of their parents?(11Samuel 2;2-4,14-27.12;9-19)

those scripture references u make have no application to your question.

to answer your question; no. The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers: every man shall be put to death for his own sin.

5 How come Gor rewarted Abraham andLot with earthy riches but Jeasus said that wealth is a one way ticket to hell?(Genesis 24;34-35,Job 42;10-12,Mathew (19;24)

Gor and Jeasus? are those pagan gods?.... ask river.

6 D0 you believe in slavery?Then why do the apostoles Paul and Peter encourage slaves to be obediant? (Ephesians 6;5-7,1 Peter 2;18)

Slavery was permitted in the Bible because of sin in the world. It existed before the Jews were formed as a nation and it existed after Israel was conquered. God allows many things to happen in the world such as storms, famine, murder, etc. Slavery, like divorce, is not preferred by God. Instead, it is allowed. Where many nations treated their slaves very badly, the Bible gave many rights and privileges to slaves. So, even though it isn't the best way to deal with people, because God has allowed man freedom, slavery then exists. God instructed the Israelites to treat them properly.

The Bible acknowledged the slave’s status as the property of the master (Ex. 21:23; Lev. 25:46),

The Bible restricted the master’s power over the slave. Ex. 21:20).

The slave was a member of the master’s household (Lev. 22:11)

The slave was required to rest on the Sabbath (Exodus 20:10; Deut. 5:14)

The slave was required and to participate in religious observances (Gen. 17:13; Exodus 12:44; Lev. 22:11).

The Bible prohibited extradition of slaves and granted them asylum (Deut. 23:16-17).

The servitude of a Hebrew debt-slave was limited to six years (Ex. 21:2; Deut. 15:12).

When a slave was freed, he was to receive gifts that enabled him to survive economically (Deut. 15:14)

The reality of slavery cannot be denied. slave labor played a minor economic role in the ancient Near East, for privately owned slaves functioned more as domestic servants than as an agricultural or industrial labor force. -carm

[neutron561 (imported)]

Uh ... W H A T ?

[OneBallBoi (imported)]

One AWESOME response Randy.. We Christian must stand together and shine our testimonies before those at Eunuch Archive. The Rapture and return of Christ is soon.

[kristoff]

One AWESOME response Randy.. We Christian must stand together and shine our testimonies before those at Eunuch Archive. The Rapture and return of Christ is soon.

Can I have your car after the Rapture, OBB?

[OneBallBoi (imported)]

You sure can Kristoff... I won't need it then and it is nearly worthless already. 14+ years old. There are not many of us real Chrsitians here. Randy, me, Sag, Plix and luvpain99. We will be gone in the twinkling of an eye at the Rapture. Few believe for narrow is the gate of those who get to heaven.

[sag111 (imported)]

All I can say is wow and why would any one want to piss any one off is my thought.OneballBoi is right but he did not respond to piss off any one he is only stating his belief and his words are a warning to every one.A person dose not have to believe if they do not want to but OneBallBoi is telling you and every one for your own good but he is not putting any one down he is telling you this because he loves you.

[Paolo]

You know, even the title of this thread just proves SAG's other topic. I've changed it.

[jemagirl (imported)]

As far as I can remember I have never responded to any of the "How to piss off a Christian" threads. I don't see the point. I don't believe most of what is in the bible but I believe people have the right to believe what they want to believe. 'Nuf said

[transward (imported)]

Well Randy, I guess we will just have to agree to disagree; you think we are damned and we think you are a raving lunatic.

But I will defend till death your right to be a raving lunatic. Are you willing to defend my right to be damned?

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