Need a little help with lowering my libido

[sdboy300 (imported)]

Hi all:

I just joined a few days ago and so far have been reading as many posts as I can.

Here is my situation: I would like to lower my sex drive to match that of my wife. She likes to have sex once a month, I would like it several times a week. Therefore I masturbate sometimes twice a day.

From what I have read I was planning on getting my T-levels checked and then order Androcur and Tamoxifen from Inhouse.

I was planning on starting with 2x50mg Androcure and 2x10mg Tamoxifen for the first week and then dropping both by about half as maintenance. I have also been taking 1mg finasteride a day for my mpb for the last 5 years, which is why I want to start with a lower dosage than most, because I figure these drugs kind of interact.

My goal is to lower my sex drive substantially but still be able to perform when my wife wants it. If I can't get it up every now and then that would not be a big deal either.

I want to avoid the side effects of these drugs as much as possible, in particular I have no interest in feminization. If some shrinkage of my penis and balls occurs that would not be a big deal.

How long would you say do I need to take these drugs? Will there be irreversible side effects if I take them at low dosage over an extended period? If yes what are they? It seems that a lot of people here use it for a few months and then stop for awhile. Is that a good option to avoid long term consequences, especially complete impotence and osteoporosis? If I only take it for 2-3 months at a time, is there still a chance of genital shrinkage and osteoporosis?

While I do want to lower my libido, I also do not want to damage my body beyond repair, because I like sex when my wife is up for it.

Thanks for reading and any help would be greatly appreciated.

[sdboy300 (imported)]

Oh, the dosages above are meant as daily and also I am 39 years of age if that helps and we are done having kids.

Thanks.

[mrt (imported)]

Personally I don't think sex drive can be "adjusted" you either castrate yourself or not. But... I've never done it with chemicals. I do know that for me that taking hormones either makes me feel "normal" or asexual.

Beware the other affects of castration. Mental focus, moods, anxiety "depression" feelings etc. Its all one big bag its NOT just sex drive.

[randy (imported)]

what about heightening her libido ?

[Paolo]

You could always try smashing your toes with a rubber mallet ...

[ramses (imported)]

You may also want to try Pozac (fluoxetine HCl) which is an SSRI/anti-depressant which has a notorious effect of reducing sex drive but can also make it harder to orgasm. You can get 90 days worth at wal-mart for $10 and doctors will easily give a prescription for it if you tell them you are feeling depressed.

You may need up to 40mg/day but don't start with more than 20mg/day or you may feel like your head is in a fog and it can cause insomnia. Please consult a doc and don't rely on this post for medical advice. I had to discontinue andrcur due to lack of energy and depression and this works for me. It doesn't work for everyone so as they say, "your milage may vary."

Good luck and do LOTS of research. The SEARCH function at the top of the page is MAGICAL!

[sdboy300 (imported)]

You may also want to try Pozac (fluoxetine HCl) which is an SSRI/anti-depressant which has a notorious effect of reducing sex drive but can also make it harder to orgasm.

Thanks for the informative response Ramses. I had not thought about Prozac.

A quick questions about Androcur though: How long did you take it? From what I have read its effects are reversible if you decide after a few weeks that it does not work for you. Was that also the case for you?

The one effect that my wife actually is most looking forward to is the genital shrinking. Any idea if that is only a side effect with Androcur? I know that everyone is different, but after how long do most people notice this side effect?

Thanks again for the informative answer.

[mrt (imported)]

If you take strong doses of chemical castration drugs you will probably suffer from Testicular Atrophy. I think the typical answer is that a 6 month run is safe. ie no changes that are un-doable. That is still up for debate because some people can go longer and other have changes that happen faster.

Changes in the penis are less well studied. One can make assumptions that the lack of nocturnal erections can cause penile changes but I don't know if anyone has said this is a fact like Testicular Atrophy. I strongly suggest you keep notes on how you feel and how your wife feels your acting. As I said hormones are not just sex drive. Its a package you buy when you play around with castration.

[ramses (imported)]

I did depot provera for about 10-11 months then did androcur for a few months. My only complaints with the DP is that I didn't sleep as well and got colder when it was cold but got hotter too, especially at night. The androcur definately took libido lower but some of that was just because I had little energy. There were many times that I would pull over on the side of the road and take a half hour or so nap during the day because I was so tired. I couldnt work out as much and could just feel the strength leaving my body. While the lower libido part was great, everything else just sucked. My bedy hair seemed to thin out some and I could still get an erection with my wife but it was much harder to get one without her. I didn't get any shrinkage but I'm sure it takes quite a while without regular erections for that to happen.

It took a few weeks to start feeling the effects wear of and took6-8 weeks to start waking up with raging wood. I swear that my penis is trying to make up for lost time with the night erections. It's actually quite annoying because they wake me up! I can feel the strength surging back into my body and that feels incredible. I just want to rip phone books in half. I don't feel particularly aggressive, just powerfull and energetic.

I started taking generic prozac about 3 weeks ago as I was coming out of the androcur and the desire to masturbate or read erotic stories (usually my preference over other porn). The prozac does make you last longer with your partner as it is sometimes used to treat prmature ejaculation. It can deaden the feelings in your genitals kind of like chemical castration does. The incidence of sexual side effects with prozac or directly correlated to the dose so if 20mg isn't doing it for you, 40mg may do the trick. I believe 40mg/day is what is generally prescribed for paraphilias and sex addictions but you need to start at a lower dose and work up to it.

I'd highly recommend trying SSRIs to lower libido before going the hormonal route but like I said earlier, I'm not a medical practiotioner and you should do your research as well as consult your own physician.

[mrt (imported)]

TMI alert. I have ED from other meds I take and yes its odd to be woken up by an erection after taking Viagra etc... But truth be told this is a problem I wish I had all the time.

As to the sleep issues. One thing worth looking into is your DHEA levels. These go down with age but they might be effected by the Chemical Castration meds as well? If you deplete that I think it screws up your ability to reach REM sleep and once thats shot sleep is a mess. Google DHEA and SLEEP and you will find better info on it.

Be aware that while DHEA is sold OTC in the US I strongly suggest you have a doctor work with you to get you levels right. And Oral versions (Tablets) often seem to convert into Estrogen (for men) and into Testosterone (for women) If you do it transdermal (Skin patch or cream) this doesn't happen. Why?! Someone tell me!? I've read the papers and its all greek or is that Geek? to me.