RE: Gonex

[A-1 (imported)]

Madscientist, You say that...

Gentlemen, please!

I have never heard so many worse-case scenarios in my life! Has anyone concidered that there may be an antidote? I cannot believe that the changes happen overnight. As far as doping is concerned, isn't it now possible to dope people with sex hormone cattle implants, available right now from farm & ranch suppliers, either ground up & taken orally or mixed with vegetable oil & injected? Remember, there is always pain at the site of an IM injection so certainly the victim would wonder what happened.

But, once again, hormone-doping just does not seem to happen. Or at least it doesn't make the news.

Au contrare,

It is common practice to use growth hormone in the feed of livestock. This is what makes them so big and robust. Now, I cannot prove this next statement but you all need to consider it.

If you look at the children and their parents it is almost always the case that the children have grown bigger and taller than either of their parents. I claim that it is due to the growth hormone residue that is left in the meat purchased from your neighborhood grocery or large food chain grocery.

The hormone is given to the livestock and is to be stopped for a period of time before the livestock is taken to market. Every medicine known to modern medicine goes out of the system by a so-called half life. This means that trace amounts are still there when the livestock is slaughtered. If you don't believe me then research the meat and packing industry in this country.

Remember the "MAD COW DISEASE" epidemic in England and to a lesser extent Europe? Creutzfeldt-Jacob Disease is the human counterpart of the malady that crosses species if the proper conditions exist. Look at a couple of these sites and maybe you can get the "feel" of my fears.

http://www.mad-cow.org/

http://www-micro.msb.le.ac.uk/335/Prions.html

Of course, a bunch of Eunuchs here might not be concerned about this, but, after all we are talking a potental extinction. Well, maybe not that, but certainly a species "bottleneck" that holds the potential to significantly reduce the world human population.

I can tell you for a fact that if you EVER saw what went into hot dogs that you would NEVER eat another one. Once in a while they even grind up a cancerous tumor and put it in them when the meat inspectors are not looking. You all might think I am crazy but I claim that you all are naive. You are trusting and taking too much for granted.

If this GONEX corporation actually markets this drug as an alternative to the castration of livestock after say 10 years everybody could be sterile but the vegitarians. Imagine a 20 year-old with no sex drive what so ever. What a shame that what you would have here is a population of sexless children and young adults with all of the frailties of a eunuch that was emasculated at a VERY early age. MALE AND FEMALE because Gonex will work the same way on either sex.

Furthermore, women who nurse their newborns could actually concentrate enough Gonex in their breast milk to make their newborns eunuchs before they are 1 year old.

If you think that I am paranoid, just wait until this shit gets into the human food chain. We won't have enough balls to fight the next Afghanistan war. Finally, there won't be enough people left in the United States to make a decent sized platoon in say a hundred years or so. Your taxes will go sky high because NOBODY will be alive to pay them.

In the end, Paolo may indeed get his wish when he says...

Given the nature of the college types here on the campus near where I work, this isn't really a bad thing. A LOT of them shouldn't be allowed to breed, much less run around

loose with an intact sex drive and the means to execute it.

The sad thing is if I am right or if I am wrong only time will tell. I hope that you all enjoyed LasVegas because there sure won't be any volupuous young women to dance there. No hardbodied men either, all of you Gay fellows. There will only be all these sexless creatures that look like pre-puberty children. What's WORSE, is the fact that there will be NO sex drives in any of them OR us. Maybe this is NOT a BAD thing, but in a generation or so, everybody will die of old age. Not a pretty picture, what?

A-1

[Paolo]

A-1 may have a point on the growth thing.

My 14.5 yo. Godson is 2" taller than me. His 10 year old brother is almost as tall. Lacks 6 inches. The older wears size 11 shoes already. My neighbor's son, 12's. He's 15, and 2 inches taller than me too. I'm 5'9", stopped growing at the end of 8th grade.

Boys seem to be hitting puberty sooner, too. My nephew, 11, is sprouting pubic hair, which I didn't have until I was 13.5 or so. His little brother, 9, has thick fuzz down there that's almost hair. Hell, the Godson is pretty well off down there too ... shameless little boy!

BUT (there's the but again) my other neighbors' boy is almost 15 and he wears size 9, same as me. He shows NO signs of puberty yet and he's a shrimp. He looks 10 ... the way I remember 10.

Overall, though, I am noticing kids are getting bigger, faster, these days. I asked my Dr. about it when my nephew had his tonsils out. He agreed, and he thinks it's the growth hormones as well in meat. Note - the 15 yo angel two doors down hates meat. He never eats fast food burgers and prefers veggies. He'll eat fresh seafood sometimes, but after a few bites of a steak, he's done.

Connection? Who knows.

But back to Gonex ... frightening scenario, isn't it? Makes you want to fire up the Mr. Clonee and get some Xerox kids made ... in full color mode. Possible? Don't know, but it's food for thought.

[JesusA (imported)]

It has now been a week and a half since I sent an e-mail to Dr. Paul Jarosz, the president of Gonex Corporation. I asked him to respond to some of the worst case scenarios which members of this board have come up with. He has neither answered my e-mail nor responded on this board.

I wrote also to one of my favorite national columnists, who often writes about ethical and human rights issues. I suggested that there might be a story in Gonex. He wrote back declining. Castration is not a topic which seems to excite enough people yet, though approval of this drug may well change that.

Those of us who are concerned about the potential for misuse of this new drug need to find someone with a large audience who is willing to bring it to public attention. I would suggest that information be sent to local and national editorial column authors. Pick your favorites and send it along. I certainly plan to write to a couple of other potential authors.

[A-1 (imported)]

If you will excuse the expression how's about writing a "HEADS UP" to the FDA and DEA.

You know, there is nothing worse than a Federal agency after your ass.

Hell, maybe even the IRS might have something to say about this.

I would think that these people would be better off selling stuff this to the CIA to put in the water system in Iraq or something...

A-1

[spdd (imported)]

If you will excuse the expression how's about writing a "HEADS UP" to the FDA and DEA.

You know, there is nothing worse than a Federal agency after your ass.

Hell, maybe even the IRS might have something to say about this.

what are those?

national health bureau?

but that would be NHB.

I would think that these people would be better off selling stuff this to the CIA to put in the water system in Iraq or something...

yes, they should try sell it to CIA.

I hope they will.

Thus implying the right market for Gonex.

I don't believe any national bureau would be so evil it would

actually destroy the lives of an innocent people.

even Saddam Hussein is innocent, still.

the water-system of Iraq, btw., was the cradle of Western Civilisation.

the delta of the rivers Eufrat and Tigris.

Mesopotamia.

[A-1 (imported)]

Sir,

Sorry, I meant not to offend. Maybe water contamination IS a bit much, especially in such a historic land. I have forgotten for a moment that the innocent are always the first to suffer in a war. They do not deserve it. I wish to retract my statement about putting Gonex in the water in Iraq, even though it would not kill anyone.

For Your Information

The DEA is the United States "Drug Enforcement Agency"

The FDA is the United States "Food and Drug Administration"

Saddam is hardly an innocent man. We have seen that he has...

1. Engaged in ethnic cleansing by killing Kurds.

2. Denied international inspection of caches of weapons of mass destruction.

3. Killed his own son-in-law entirely for political reasons.

4. Engaged in war with neighboring countries for invalid reasons.

5. Killed innocent women and children through the use of poison gas.

He has done many other heinous things and like Osama Bin Laden and the Al-Quada does not deserve a trial but instead life where he can no longer do harm to humanity. Failing in that, he should die as soon as possible, so that others might live.

He, good friend, has killed enough of humanity.

A-1

[spdd (imported)]

The DEA is the United States "Drug Enforcement Agency"

they enforce drugs(medicine) on people?

what do they do?

not that, do they?

Saddam is hardly an innocent man. We have seen that he has...

1. Engaged in ethnic cleansing by killing Kurds.

if they really would cleans, we would never even had known there

are kurds. The Third Reich showed how fast you can cleanse if

you really bother to. there might be some quarrels now and then,

but unprovoced extinction of kurds?

I don't think so.

I mean, Stalin never tried to cleanse the samoyed-"indians".

If kurds would not let their testosterone go so high they

necessarily need an own country I'm sure nobody would bother

them. It's a two-way street and in Turkey they have really

tried and given good opportunitys for kurds to become good

turkish citizens. If I were a kurd in Iraq I would just want to

be a normal Iraqian.

same goes for palestina, why not just become Israelians

and forget the muslim lebensraum.

as John Lennon sang:

"Imagine there's no heaven or 69

virgins to kill or die for. It's easy if you try."

2. Denied international inspection of caches of weapons of mass destruction.

I wonder what Presnit W would say if Putin would want

to check USA:s weapon-program.

just a comparison but yes, I know it is a UN dictate to

check Iraq, Iraq is still not big enough to be left

unchecked if you get my drift.

In my opinion everybody should be checked but if only few

we should begin with undemocratic countries like Iraq.

3. Killed his own son-in-law entirely for political reasons.

that has not been proved.

4. Engaged in war with neighboring countries for invalid reasons.

Saddam thought anschlussing Kuwait to be a part of

the great'n'glorious Iraq would be something Kuwait would

cheer to like Austria did when Germany anschlussed them.

But Saddam could not foresee that Kuwait was not interested

in Iraqs higher culture. Kuwait proved to be interested only in

their oil-wealth which they did not want to share with Iraqs people.

Lucky for Kuwaits overflow in wealth and cultural boredom was

that USA did not want to start dealing with a big Iraq about

oil but rather with little Kuwait and get it cheaper.

When Iraq came to Kuwait they killed no-one.

but Kuwaitians became grumpy because they knew their overflow

in oil-wealth would now end.

so Kuwait called Presnit W:s father and USA came and Iraq

thought "well, if we are not welcome.." and went back home,

no blood shed. no big deal.

5. Killed innocent women and children through the use of poison gas.

what's this?

never heard.

Do you imply they have death-penalty for homicide-convicts

in Iraq?

He has done many other heinous things and like Osama Bin Laden and the Al-Quada does not deserve a trial but instead life where he can no longer do harm to humanity.

I actually believe Osama Bin Laden is not the big devil behind

the terrorist-attack 11.9.2001.

the big devil was Muhammed Atta who invented the idea and

made the plans for it and carried it out and died in the crash.

Muhammed Atta was the one ho steared one of the planes

which crashed on WTC.

Muhammed Atta did tell Osama Bin Laden about his plans a

week in advance and got Osama Bin Ladens blessing for it.

Osama Bin Laden is no saint either.

Osama Bin Laden did not tell USA in order to stop Muhammed Atta.

but the baddest criminals in the WTC-case died at the very same

moment as their victims.

but Operation Scape-Goat had still my blessing.

it was good to get order to Afganistan and destroy the schools

which were schooling more Muhammed Attas to this poor world.

USA did a great thing in Afghanistan but forget that

old loonie Osama Bin Laden.Osama Bin Laden is just a lunatic

chorane-reader who once-a-while takes his nose out of the

chorane to take the blame for psyhopats

evil deeds abroad in order to be hero to Arabs.

there are a lot of Osama Bin Ladens in arab countries, all

as guilty as he, they wouldn't have warned USA either if they

had known and they cheered too at the big towers crush.

Arabs are loyal to each other and think it is herous to destroy

the towers of the powerful USA.

all Arabs need is some good upbringing, to teach them in school

it is damned stupid and red-necked to wanna kill'n'die to

get 69 virgins. it's no culture, it's just destruction of everything

real, rational and human.

the most stupid arabs, who have hard time realising that,

must simply be told THERE IS NO HEAVEN and NO 69 VIRGINS

WAITING FOR YOU so just go and do some simple chore for

your community, earn some money, and get a real woman if

you find some sad bitch who accepts a stupid red-neck like you.

Failing in that, he should die as soon as possible, so that others might live.

There must be NO MERCY on terrorists.

there will ALWAYS be the % of people who are born defect

and want to kill other people.

the rules of mercy do not apply to them.

we must give NO MERCY to them because

we the honorable ones must have all the mercy

for ourselves and each other.

it's them or us. dispose them. take no prisoners. take no shit.

on the other hand, even though they don't deserve to live,

they can, if possible, still be inprisoned as a means of propaganda

to show everybody that we are the good ones and we choose life.

the christian atmosphere might make less defect ones, worth a try.

but take prisoners only if they surrender direct.

after all you only need a few for propaganda.

I get very angry every time some stupid tries to understand

terrorists, there is nothing worth understanding in killing

people who don't deserve to die.

nobody here in EA has tried to understand terrorists but

I have heard a wine-drinking brain-dead stupid hag

trying to understand suicide-bombers:

"ít's a help-call to society."

ärrrr..

[A-1 (imported)]

The DEA or Drug Enforcement Agency is charged with enforcement of all the laws regarding the unlawful use, possession and sale of drugs.

Usually the DEA is after the importers of cocaine, Heroin and the derivatives of the opium poppy flower.

The drug may have a legitimate use but if it is obtained or sold illegally, then the officers from this agency arrest and submit for legal prosecution those who are caught with drugs that they are not supposed to have.

The FDA, however, insures the quality and purity of food and drugs. It is also responsible for approving drugs for medical use in America.

It is sad that a country with so much wealth and opportunity as America has to have to have government intervention to keep its people from destroying themselves and others by abusing drugs. It is an embarrassment that we Americans who have so much as a people do such things.

It just goes to prove that Wealth cannot purchase happiness.

A-1

[A-1 (imported)]

you ask...

I wonder what Presnit W would say if Putin would want

to check USA:s weapon-program.

Actually, this has happened in the past. In treaties with Russia we have agreed to let each other's spy satellites confirm that missles, bomber planes such as B-52's and other weapons of war were being dismantled according to treaties.

It was comforting to me to see President Putin and George W. on the ranch in Texas, riding horses together and dealing with each other face to face.

The problem is that Nuclear Weapons and other weapons of mass destruction in the hands of aggressive nations can cause the deaths of many innocent people.

Nuclear Weapon technology is 57 years old. Nobody can keep a technology secret in a free country for 57 years. Nuclear Weapons are not hard to understand. They are hard to build. It is not a matter of knowledge, it is a matter of materials and craftmanship.

I am sure that if there were a way we would have rather that the World Trade Center Towers in New York been destroyed without loss of life, even that of Mohammad Atta and his fellow terrorists. That is not the point. Innocent people dying is something that can never be tolerated. Terrorists, as you so validly observed, do not care.

But as I say, the innocents dying are always the ones who cause the most emotions in the world. America did nothing when the warship was attacked and its young sailors were killed. America did nothing when the Marines, our sons, were killed in Africa. America has tried to get along with the world and its people.

Killing American civilians in America and destroying buildings because they are large and are a misunderstood symbol cannot be tolerated. Afghanistan needed to be helped. It had many sick individuals in power who were bullies and cowards. They took advantage of their women and children. That was not enough for them. Now they have taken advantage of us all.

Mohammad Atta lived in America on the money of Osama BinLaden. BinLaden has done an evil thing taking advantage of America's system of freedom for its visitors and citizens. Mohammad Atta was his tool and in being such could never be as evil as Osama.

If Osama doesn't pay in this life then he will surely pay in the next. God, call him Allah or whatever name you know him by, will judge us all. It is apparent, however, that BinLaden's works have caused his judgment and universal condemnation. May God have mercy on him, because the free world cannot. We are only human.

A-1

[Farrell_Squire (imported)]

Spdd, Please don’t take this wrong. I’m just trying to add a little levity to this thread. You said on a post above:

"…

it is damned stupid and red-necked to wanna kill'n'die to

get 69 virgins."

and

"…THERE IS NO HEAVEN and NO 69 VIRGINS

WAITING FOR YOU

…"

I thought the number of virgins was actually 72, not 69. Could this be a Freudian slip? I know EXACTLY where you are coming from. When I see a good looking woman (virgin or not) the first number that pops into my head is 69 - not 72!

Farrell