RE: Gonex

[spdd (imported)]

That message in which A1 tells about the foodpoisoning

with Gonex and that it affects only weeks after the stuff

is out of the system making tracing of suspects difficult

if one even gets to know what happened.

that message is fucking right.

Gonex is a thing in which private-sector chemistrians have

crossed the border from good chemistry to inhumane

chemistry.

There has always been stuff one can inject in one shot to kill

but that stuff has NOT been available to any looney as

Gonex will be. Furthermore Gonex appeals to the morbidly artist

mind of a looney much more than killing poison.

Gonex will soon be evryfuckingwhere.

It must be stopped.

We will send A1:ns message to the company although it might not help.

But we MUST tell Presnit W.

We MUST send A1:ns message to Presnit W.

Presnit W will stop Gonex.

Presnit W is a christian.

[Farrell_Squire (imported)]

I’m glad to see this thread growing a little. I think it is important that we keep an eye on this drug as it could have very profound impact on society in the near future. I agree with A-1 that the company should put some kind of marker in the drug so that it could be positively diagnosed in the body.

I think the most widespread abuses of the drug will probably be among institutions, especially those overseeing the education and correction of young people. There is a growing trend toward privatization of education in this country with many new private parochial schools springing up in small communities.

The state of Arkansas has recently privatized their youth corrections facility, turning it over to a Texas-based private corrections company. Elected government now has little to do with what goes on inside those chain link walls. Unless someone is killed or suffers visible physical damage, no one will be much the wiser. Private corrections corporations are a growing industry in the state of Texas, housing many prisoners from other states. (Missouri recently retracted their prisoners from private Texas correctional institutions because of abuses aired on national television.)

As mentioned in other posts, the symptoms of a Gonex injection will not be immediate or profound. Anyone who was intoxicated or mildly sedated might not even realize they had been given the shot. Wives could give it to their husbands in their sleep and parents could give it to their children in their sleep. It could possibly even be piggy-backed on a flu shot. Cults and oppressive institutions could use it on kids who rebelled against the group’s teachings or were too curious and insisted on asking the wrong questions, thus eliminating them from the gene pool.

The fact that this drug will work equally on females and males will likely have psychological ramifications in society that we cannot yet foresee. Although testosterone can make men aggressive and bellicose, women can be very cruel and vindictive when dealing with a rival. I can foresee all kinds of Gonex scenarios involving girl/girl rivalries; homecoming queen, beauty pageants, competing for boyfriends, even sibling rivalries. Can you imagine if Tanya Harding had gotten her boyfriend to give Nancy Kerrigan a Gonex prick instead of hitting her legs with a club? It might not have taken her out that season, but the next year she wouldn’t have filled out those little spandex tights nearly so well! Furthermore, she might never have known or suspected what had happened. This is scary stuff! How many divorce cases in the future are going to end up with one, or both, partners being Gonexed?

Farrell

[Farrell_Squire (imported)]

I have considered writing my congressman and senators in an attempt to give them a heads-up on this drug with plenty of lead time to enact appropriate legislation. However, if they bothered to read my letters at all, they would probably think I was some kind of alarmist pervert and assign Homeland Security agents to watch me instead of the drug. This will have to be brought to their attention in the usual way, waiting until 60 Minutes or 20-20 has aired the horror stories about mass emasculations at spring break parties etc. Then their mainstream constituents will begin to clamor for legislation. With a 2004 release date, it will probably be sometime around 2007-2010 before abuses become widespread enough to attract public attention.

I think whether or not our dire predictions concerning Gonex will come true depends a lot on some factors we don’t know yet.

An effective dose of Gonex could consist of 8 to 10 cc’s of a heavy viscous liquid that burns like branding iron going in, then makes a knot the size of a tennis ball and puts you in bed for three days (like the old flu shots of the 1960’s). If this is the case, nobody can be Gonexed without knowing it. It will be more like the shotgun blast to the groin. It loses its sneaky, subtle aspect.

On the other hand, if it only takes something like 2 cc’s of serum; is painless; leaves no knot and little or no soreness (like modern flu shots) then the drug can be administered as we have discussed and predicted above.

Another unknown factor is the ease or difficulty of manufacture. It might take very sophisticated facilities to make the drug, or it may be something that can be cooked off in home labs. We don’t know.

Even if Gonex puts a marker in their drug to facilitate diagnosis, generic Gonex from abroad may not have such markers. These generics would become the drug of choice by those who wanted to use it for clandestine purposes.

Lastly, I don’t know how the Gonexed individual would react to HRT, either testosterone or estrogen. (Maybe the medically knowledgeable members on this board can help me out here.) Once properly diagnosed, an individual might be able to lead a somewhat normal sex life even though they couldn’t reproduce. Or maybe not!

We definitely need to keep an eye on developments concerning this drug.

Farrell

[madscientist (imported)]

I have never heard so many worse-case scenarios in my life! Has anyone concidered that there may be an antidote? I cannot believe that the changes happen overnight. As far as doping is concerned, isn't it now possible to dope people with sex hormone cattle implants, available right now from farm & ranch suppliers, either ground up & taken orally or mixed with vegetable oil & injected? Remember, there is always pain at the site of an IM injection so certainly the victim would wonder what happened.

But, once again, hormone-doping just does not seem to happen. Or at least it doesn't make the news.

[SplitDick (imported)]

Madscientist,

It is true that most of these are worst case scenarios. However, there are some factors with Gonex that are different than other things available today, and might make it more attractive to people looking to make revenge, or control, other people.

Gonex sounds like it will be cheaper than other hormonal injections and implants. On the street, a one week supply of an anti-androgen often goes for about $15. Gonex is apparently permanent at less than $10.

Also, I would disagree that there is always pain at an intramuscular injection site. I've used injectable steroids many times without any serious pain.

Lastly, the idea of an antidote is only useful if you know what happened to you. In this case the symptoms do not occur until the Gonex has had plenty of time to work in your system. It kills cells so is not likely reversable.

In any case, these are worse case scenarios. Rat poison is cheap and available but you don't hear that many cases of people poisoning each other with it.

[spdd (imported)]

women can be very cruel and vindictive when dealing with a rival. I can foresee all kinds of Gonex scenarios involving girl/girl ri

valries;

Oh No!!! all those sad women and girls!

I have considered writing my congressman and senators in an attempt to give them a heads-up on this drug with plenty of lead time to enact appropriate legislation. However, if they bothered to read my letters at all,

they would probably think I was some kind of alarmist

pervert

Let's write to the newspapers. I will here in Finland.

This will have to be brought to their attention in the usual way, waiting until 60 Minutes or 20-20 has aired the horror stories about mass emasculations at spring break parties etc. Then their mainstream constituents will begin to clamor for legislation. With a 2004 release date, it will probably be sometime around 2007-2010 before

abuses become widespread enough to attract public attention.

No! We CANNOT let that happen!

[Paolo]

F.Sq. says:

This will have to be brought to their attention in the usual way, waiting until 60 Minutes or 20-20 has aired the horror stories about mass emasculations at spring break parties etc.

Given the nature of the college types here on the campus near where I work, this isn't really a bad thing. A LOT of them shouldn't be allowed to breed, much less run around loose with an intact sex drive and the means to execute it.

Seriously, though ... as far as wild women injecting poor unsuspecting boys .... A friend of mine who is diabetic filled a syringe of his with saline solution once and shot me in the leg as he would give himself an insulin shot. OUCH! Now granted, maybe HE got used to that, but as far as sneaking up on someone in a bar and doing it?

Nope, ain't buyin' it. He'd notice before you got all the CC's in.

HOWEVER, drunk and passed out in the girls' hotel room is a totally different story.

[Andrew (imported)]

OK, maybe I missed it somewhere, but is there really any evidence that GONAX will work with just one shot? When androcur, depo lupron, and all the rest don't? Sorry to be skeptical here, but...well...I tend to be skeptical.

[Bill (imported)]

The way in which Gonex operates is totally different from say Androcur. In the latter, you are dealing with a transient effect. Gonex operates by linking a protein synthesis inhibitor (AKA poison) to a hormone processed by the cells in the pituitary that generate the hormone that causes the gonads to produce their hormones. (Whew!) Once the pituitary cells take up the altered hormone as part of their normal activity, they die. When enough of them die, there is no longer sufficient triggering hormone to cause the release of the sex hormones. After a time, without the stimulus of the sex hormones, the gonads atrophy which is the same effect that one sees after the long term blocking action of repeated doses of Androcur. Since the hormone used as the carrier of the poison is specific to the pituitary cells, other cells are not affected.

[madscientist (imported)]

The way in which Gonex operates is totally different from say Androcur. After a time, without the stimulus of the sex hormones, the gonads atrophy which is the same effect that one sees after the long term blocking action of repeated doses of Androcur. Since the hormone used as the carrier of the poison is specific to the pituitary cells, other cells are not affected.

How long does it take to atrophy the testis using Androcure or Depo-Provera? According to what I have read the cervix will atrophy after menopause so I imagine the testis will do the same when testosterone production is blocked somehow. The question is will the above 2 drugs do the trick