18 months on spiro

[helen (imported)]

I confess to feeling far less knowledgeable than others, based upon the excellent,educated posts I read. Let me share my experience with anti androgens for whatever value it may have for others.

I am 61, married, and have been transvestite/transgendered over 55 years. Fetish issues had always plagued me-familiar scenario-dress up, get aroused, release, guilt, undress-. I rare have had a good sexual relationship with women. I adore them, but it has never truly worked out for any duration.

For complex reasons that perhaps a truly good shrink could determine, I have this testicle dislike/anti testosterone mindset. Very common on this site to be sure!

About 18 months ago I started taking spiro. had a tough time initially-urination pain,etc. That went away over time. Currently I take 200 mg a day and 1/4 a 5 mg fincar pill (from wonderful Inhouse Pharmacy). I don't have much or any sexual libido. With concentration, I can arouse myself and experience a 'girlgasm' as another coined it-but only clear prostate fluid is ejaculated, if I can call that small discharge.

I do note slower beard regrowth, finer body hair, and much less, very little body odor, some breast enlargement (might be from the estrogen patches I took last summer, but stopped due to super sensitive nipples, too much showing. I do have somewhat tubular breasts--38A- with pouty nipples. This, to be frank, is a bit of a problem-have to be careful with T shirts that aren't oversized. I think my rear patch -male pattern baldness-has stopped enlarging and maybe some fine hair regrowth, but it may be wishful thinking!

I love my little girls, still dislike the brats, and wish I could arrange an orchi, but would be content with significant shrinkage, which, alas hasn't been the result with the spiro. I presume my penis may be shrinking due to no having nocturnal erections--I wear panties and a nightie and before this combination would produce a firm erection--smooth fabric gliding,etc. I do feel far more content--maybe like a eunuch calm whatever that exactly is. I sense my mild hypertension is reduced-stays in the normal range. I do worry about bone loss and take calcium pills.

I wonder if a different med would help with the shrinkage desire? I appreciate the intelligent posts. best, helen

[Danya (imported)]

I confess to feeling far less knowledgeable than others, based upon the excellent,educated posts I read. Let me share my experience with anti androgens for whatever value it may have for others.

I am 61, married, and have been transvestite/transgendered over 55 years. Fetish issues had always plagued me-familiar scenario-dress up, get aroused, release, guilt, undress-. I rare have had a good sexual relationship with women. I adore them, but it has never truly worked out for any duration.

For complex reasons that perhaps a truly good shrink could determine, I have this testicle dislike/anti testosterone mindset. Very common on this site to be sure!

About 18 months ago I started taking spiro. had a tough time initially-urination pain,etc. That went away over time. Currently I take 200 mg a day and 1/4 a 5 mg fincar pill (from wonderful Inhouse Pharmacy). I don't have much or any sexual libido. With concentration, I can arouse myself and experience a 'girlgasm' as another coined it-but only clear prostate fluid is ejaculated, if I can call that small discharge.

I do note slower beard regrowth, finer body hair, and much less, very little body odor, some breast enlargement (might be from the estrogen patches I took last summer, but stopped due to super sensitive nipples, too much showing. I do have somewhat tubular breasts--38A- with pouty nipples. This, to be frank, is a bit of a problem-have to be careful with T shirts that aren't oversized. I think my rear patch -male pattern baldness-has stopped enlarging and maybe some fine hair regrowth, but it may be wishful thinking!

I love my little girls, still dislike the brats, and wish I could arrange an orchi, but would be content with significant shrinkage, which, alas hasn't been the result with the spiro. I presume my penis may be shrinking due to no having nocturnal erections--I wear panties and a nightie and before this combination would produce a firm erection--smooth fabric gliding,etc. I do feel far more content--maybe like a eunuch calm whatever that exactly is. I sense my mild hypertension is reduced-stays in the normal range. I do worry about bone loss and take calcium pills.

I wonder if a different med would help with the shrinkage desire? I appreciate the intelligent posts. best, helen

Hi Helen,

Thanks for sharing your experiences with spiro. I have been on it since mid-February of 2008. Before that, I was on Androcur starting in November of 2007.

I noticed significant breast enlargement on spiro which I did not get with Androcur. Sounds like you are happy with the breast enlargement so that works out well.

Nearly four months on spiro alone still left me with a total testosterone level of 500. I was in shock when I heard this because that is still in the mid-range of what is 'normal' for a male. Spiro is not a very potent anti-androgen, at least not for me! So I tend to doubt you will get much testicular shrinkage with spiro.

I have had continuing body hair reduction since I switched from Androcur to spiro, which is wonderful. The minor breast enlargement I got from spiro has been accelerated by the estrogen I have been taking since early June, 2008. I now have significant testicular shrinkage.

All persons whether they be men, eunuchs or women or something else entirely should be concerned about bone loss as they age. Taking calcium pills is a good thing. Are you getting weight-bearing exercise besides, like walking? Things like bicyling don't count because you are not bearing your own weight. You might want to ask for a testosterone test if you see a physician. If your level is really low, you are certainly at higher risk for osteoporosis.

Hugs,

Danya