Libido question

[dancinggizmos (imported)]

Some use Pregnenolone Cream along with TRT or alone if they do not want to use TRT and it has been helpful for some.

This is a compund which would range from 5% to 10%, I would recommend talking to my Physician about this, as it can be quite helpful.

It sometimes takes some work to find a Physican that cares and understands, however this hormone is a non narcotic.

No medical advise intended, just my personal opinion.

[BossTamsin (imported)]

I completely agree that there is more to libido that just testosterone. Whether its something we don't know about, or something we can't replace, there is something more closely connected to libido than plain testosterone.

Personally, I found that for a couple weeks post-castration, my libido actually increased, before it dropped. Ability decreased far faster than interest, as well. It's said that the testes produce far more than just testosterone, and I believe that to be true. Unfortunately, all HRT can replace is just the testosterone. Any of the other hormones must be synthesized by the body post-castration, and this will definitely vary from person to person.

It would definitely be interesting to see what actually may be responsible for sex drive and interest. Such a discovery may have to wait quite awhile, however, as research into the effects of hormones on the body is very much still in its infancy. I wouldn't be surprised to find that it's a result of another hormone which acts upon either testosterone or estrogen, and is produced by the gonads.

[dancinggizmos (imported)]

I completely agree that there is more to libido that just testosterone. Whether its something we don't know about, or something we can't replace, there is something more closely connected to libido than plain testosterone.

Personally, I found that for a couple weeks post-castration, my libido actually increased, before it dropped. Ability decreased far faster than interest, as well. It's said that the testes produce far more than just testosterone, and I believe that to be true. Unfortunately, all HRT can replace is just the testosterone. Any of the other hormones must be synthesized by the body post-castration, and this will definitely vary from person to person.

It would definitely be interesting to see what actually may be responsible for sex drive and interest. Such a discovery may have to wait quite awhile, however, as research into the effects of hormones on the body is very much still in its infancy. I wouldn't be surprised to find that it's a result of another hormone which acts upon either testosterone or estrogen, and is produced by the gonads.

I would say this is very true, other hormones are produced by the testicles, which is why sometimes testosterone is not the only hormone administered in HRT replacement. It can be hard finding a Physician that can assist you with this, however I am sure much more is yet to be discovered. It is just not the same as it was before, but it is similar.

I miss the drive I had naturally.

[raymar2020 (imported)]

libido is definately not just testosterone driven. I have a good friend who was born without testicles. He opted as a teen to forgo any hormone therapies, as he has a beautiful soprano voice. He grew to be 6 inches taller than his two brothers, but is very long limbed and slim. Sexually he has a short fat penis,and virtually no scrotum.

While as a gay man his preferred position is as a bottom, he is capable of erection, and has assumed the role of top.

He says that he never has spontaneous erections, but when he is in an amourous situation it will respond.

I would say that at each stage where our sexual lives have crossed paths , that he has had a libido that is equal to most men who are intact. This leads me to believe that libido is much more driven by the brain, than by the testicles.

Certainly, as a birth eunuch his situation is somewhat different than a man who chooses to be castrated in adulthood. Further support is that my own situation is that while my testicles have never functioned normally, I have an agressive libido. I require only a very small doseage of testosterone, to stave off the other effects of a lack of testicles. As a matter of fact, I even develop what I refer to as "roid rage" if my testosterone levels rise above the 350 mark.

Even on occasions when I have chosen to not use testosterone for a while, I still have not seen a drop in my libido. My function changes slightly, in that I do not get "morning wood", and erections will only occur from physical contact.

Each person is different, as many find they lose all ability soon after castration without HRT. Most I am acquainted with still have some libido though , even if function is not possible.

Ray

[artisticlicense (imported)]

I concur with "bobbie", "raymar2020" and "dancinggizmos".

I had a very high libido before puberty. I got spontaneous erections and sure wanted to use them. I also was born with undescended testicles (surgically dropped, age 6). My libido has always been about the same since my late teen years. Physically, the 'equipment' started failing around late teens and required manual stimulation in my early 20's (which sometimes was embarrassing). I never found out why until my early 30's, in a physical exam for work insurance. I had non-functioning testicles.

No one is identical, even twins (I have one, so I can testify). What is normal for me is only what I know, as I didn't have the same equipment as other boys, growing up. I feel desires and want to have sex, although my 'equipment' may not respond as other guys (recounting past-to-present, observing my brothers behavior measured against my own reactions). It's not like I'm clueless to sex altogether, as a true eunuch might be.

Now, today, at age 50, I do not use pharmaceutical "T". It has been offered, but I still "feel" like I've always felt, so I declined. I may change my mind one day though, who knows. It might be exciting, or at least educational, to experience physical body-responses as a 'normal' (?) male might.

Not intending to dish out medical advice, but there is a lot of natural alternatives one can try before submitting to shots or possibly expensive pharmaceuticals (if maintaining desire is important). If you do experiment, at least keep your Dr. informed.

I too use pregnenolone, 10 mg caplets daily, but I also take nettles herb with it (both help the body build "T" from all available body-sources). I still require manual stimulation to 'respond', but it does. I take Garlic oil with dinner. If you've ever taken garlic oil, or garlic products for cholesterol management, then you've most likely experienced the side effect of 'morning wood'. Proves to me that natural can be good. I take other herbs / supplements now and then, but off topic, anyone interested can look up past postings,...

To me, the brain is a powerful sex organ. It can operate as trained. If you want to respond to thoughts, or visual stimulus, it will figure a 'work-around' to by-pass missing links. If you do not; focus on other things, reminding yourself that it (the thought / pursuit) is as useless as your aged or modified equipment.

Just remember that no one is identical and what's good for others may not be good for you.

[Kangan (imported)]

Thanks for all the replies. My libido is definitely diminished after castration, but there is no doubt that my brain is still in control. I don't think about sex as often, but when a sexual situation arises - so do I!

I'd guess that the bottom line is that castration will not eliminate libido - only modify it.

[homptydumpty (imported)]

This question turns me on~

I feel that my libido is self stimulated, only because when i am sad or depressed its non existent. when i am happy and productive i am easily turned on!

Truthfully though if i did not inflict much desired self stimulation, my libido i am sure would decrease....

i am on a low dose of hormones though... huh~

I love sexual desire, or maybe what i mean is i enjoy sexual touch.....

It has been nearly a year since I castrated myself, and I find that my libido, while diminished greatly, is still there.

How much of one's libido is hormones and how much is in the brain?

[FianceeUvBigGuy (imported)]

If any of my friends here need a libido boost, I have an excess to share!

Of course, I'm not sure if my genetic origins (See: >^..^> instead of , Ovaries in lieu of ballsies.) would allow success even if you joined us together with jumper-cables.

Yoli

The helpful type.

[devi (imported)]

Given the right time and place, I can get my libido running if I wanted to. because of all this other stuff that keeps coming up, I just haven't bothered with it.

[nullorchis (imported)]

I don't know what my T-level has been throughout my life. But it most certainly must have been high. From age 12 until age 25 thoughts of sex, and engagement in self-sex and gay sex, was the predominant factor in my life. Since mid-teens I always desired to be castrated.

At age 25 I had vasectomies. I felt it was the closest thing to castration that I would ever achieve. The thought of being sterile was very erotic to me. The left one had complications. Major surgery to repair internal bleeding left the testicle intact, but it never functioned the same again. It was squishy, small, would not move around freely and presumably may have lost some or all ability to produce testosterone. Perhaps age, or perhaps this operation, or perhaps my reduced self-image of having a deformed testicle helped to lower my sex drive somewhat.

Even so my desire for castration remained unaffected. Sexual frustration turned into sexual self-abuse focused on my balls, in the hope that I could damage them to the point where they would no longer function.

Earlier this year, all that self-abuse finally paid off (I guess). I completely lost all interest in sex, I could not get an erection, both balls got hard and shrank, and I no longer had any interest in self-abuse and castration.

Following a physical exam my Dr. noted that I had low-T and prescribed HRT. I started this 5 weeks ago. After a month I again had EMHO (early morning hard on...aka "morning wood") , my interest in and ability to have sex re-appeared as did my thoughts of castration and self-abuse practices.

My T-level will be measured later this month. Depending on those results I will choose to reduce the HRT so that I can hopefully have enough testosterone in my body to minimize the negative health issues of having no T, but not so much T that I have sexual frustrations or self-abuse.

If I knew years ago what I know now I would have chosen castration supplemented with HRT so that I could achieve a mind over body balance. Knowing that my body's production of testosterone will never again control my life is comforting to me.

Given the choice of returning to normal levels of testosterone, or having no testosterone, I would choose the later. Given the choice of chemicals, burdizzo, or castration to reduce testosterone I would choose the later.

Regarding the brain as a powerful sex organ. For me, when I lost my sex drive earlier this year, even when I tried to get it up, no matter how hard my brain tried, nothing would rise to the occasion and I never had an EMHO. So in my case there was still some desire to have sexual activity, the lights were on, but nobody was at home.