The best libido-suppressor

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The best libido-suppressor

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Hey guys, this post is for those of you who, like me, have desired castration due to overactive libido.

As part of my recent medical attention to my testicle injuries, I asked my doctor for a psychiatric referral. I have never seen a psychiatrist before despite my years of self-injury and self-endangering behavior (regarding sex and castration), so I felt I really should get some examination.

I saw the psychiatrist, and he was very good. Anyway, he feels that there are probably three aspects to my desire. He feels there is an underlying mood disorder (such as depression), a personality disorder (such as borderline personality disorder with a component of gender identity issues), and regular psychodynamics (such as my views on sex and women) which all need to be addressed.

The mood disorder is easiest to address, so is what he addressed first. He prescribed a SSRI drug called Celexa, which is a modern version of drugs like Prozac. One of the main side effects he warned me about was loss of libido! Perfect!

Anyway, it is entirely true. I feel really good (i.e. not depressed), but also simply don't feel like hurting or pleasuring my genitals. The only way I can explain it is that these drugs reduce how much part physical pleasure plays in one's decision-making. I make good decisions where I used to decide to hide in my house and hurt myself. I also have a much reduced appetite for food, etc. I feel really good, but don't have episodes where I indulge in extreme physical acts of pain or pleasure.

I have read many, many accounts that loss of libido is a common side effect with these drugs. A woman friend was just complaining to me about this. That might be a problem for other people, but this is exactly what I wanted. It is not really low libido -- I am still very interested in sex, but I simply don't have to do crazy things to satisfy my physical urges. I believe it is much better than reducing testosterone, since there are other physiolgical problems with low testosterone (loss of muscle, bone density, etc.) which the heterosexual guy won't want.

I highly, highly suggest getting psychiatric referrals with the aim of getting an SSRI-type drug for any of you who, like me, crave castration as a solution to high libido.
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SplitDick (imported) wrote: Mon Feb 18, 2002 9:36 am I saw the psychiatrist, and he was very good. Anyway, he feels that there are probably three aspects to my desire. He feels there is an underlying mood disorder (such as depression), a personality disorder (such as borderline personality disorder with a component of gender identity issues), and regular psychodynamics (such as my views on sex and women) which all need to be addressed.

The mood disorder is easiest to address, so is what he addressed first. He prescribed a SSRI drug called Celexa, which is a modern version of drugs like Prozac. One of the main side effects he warned me about was loss of libido! Perfect!

Be very, very careful with things like Borderline. It is a nasty, nasty illness, with many interrelated issues, and is VERY difficult to treat.

I'd advise you to do some reading on your own about this illness, as there aren't many pshrinks capable of dealing with it properly.

If you want any more information, just write me.

IEunuch.

(Major depression, dysthymia, Borderline Personality Disorder, etc...)
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IEunuch,

Yeah, thanks for the warning. One of the reasons I never went to see a psychiatrist all my life is that I knew I was almost too wierd to treat. Borderline Personality means my views toward myself and the world around me change constantly, and I have no one stable personality. I don't have multiple personalities, but I also don't have an easily definable personality.

For example, people at work think I am an amazing engineer and businessman and I get well paid, lots of responsibility, and frequent promotions. But my family knows me as the laziest person on the planet who hardly stirs from the couch. Many friends consider me very spiritual because I practice Tai Chi and can talk about philosophy forever. But other friends know me as the most depraved person imaginable, who tortures submissive women and similarly submit myself to sexual torture. Another inconsistency is that sometimes I go out of my way to avoid hurting others, but other times I go out of my way to be violent.

Not only do I suspect that most psychiatrists will have difficulty helping me with borderline personality, I think they will have even more trouble with my castration desire. I imagine I will be referred to some sort of specialist. Such specialists do exist, in fact there are several papers on the web about "autocastration desire" which they find are usually related to either schizophrenia or related personality disorders.

However, the part that has helped me immensely is the Celexa. Now even though I get the same urges as before (e.g. to hurt myself), I simply don't go through with it. The urges are the same, but my reaction to those urges is much better.

What I'm hoping is that my psychiatrist is able to unravel those urges a bit as well, even if they can't totally cure me. Besides I believe in the end it is up to me to cure myself -- a psychiatrist will just provide me support and someone to talk to.

Thanks for the advice.
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The problem with psychiatry in general is that it is too subjective. My situation is that I am merely tired of my sex drive & would like to eliminate it entirely through a non-surgical means so that I might enjoy other things. Are you sure that is not your desire?
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Madscientist,

Yes, that is my desire. And I've found that Celexa does exactly that. It is hard to describe the effect. It is not really suppressing the libido, rather it suppresses the part all physical urges play in decision making. Things like overeating and such also seem to be much easier to control.

I realize a psychiatrist may not do much for me. I'm probably more intelligent and better educated than many of them. However, it is nice to have someone to talk to and to support my efforts. Castration desire is just something you can't discuss with your family or coworkers.

So don't worry about me placing any hope on psychiatry. I just need them to prescribe my Celexa, and to provide a sympathetic ear while I deal with my own demons.

Cheers!
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Celexa is relatively new. I would hate to find out if this substance causes any permanent damage. Remember fen-phen?
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madscientist (imported) wrote: Tue Feb 19, 2002 6:59 pm Celexa is relatively new. I would hate to find out if this substance causes any permanent damage. Remember fen-phen?

Yup. I remember it well. Having been on damn near every SSRI out there (or at least an impressive percentage), and experienced the side effects the offer, all I can say is that it wouldn't surprise me if in 10-20 years the entire class is pulled for causing serious long-term damage.

Hell, look at Serzone (http://www.serzonealert.com/)... (Something I have taken, fairly recently, too.)

IEunuch.

(A dozen SSRI's tried, and counting....)
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I agree that medical science seems quite willing to use patients as guinea pigs. Messing with brain chemicals is drastic by any account. New does not always mean improved.

However, for me it is a choice between possible long-term damage from Celexa or a psychotic episode where I hack off my own genitals in a pool of blood. So I'm choosing the lesser of two evils.

Even suppressing your testosterone has major side effects. The bone density one is quite serious (30% reduction in just a few months of castrate levels). Your mood will be affected as well -- when I've taken LHRH-analogs I would start crying for no reason.

So there is no perfect answer. Unfortunately, it is hard to become "sexless" while still remaining in "perfect" health. I personally would like to remain strong and muscular, to feel energetic and powerful, but simply not be plagued by sexual urges. Celexa is the closest thing I've found to that, and that is why I recommend it.
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Wow. I'm on Celexa, but not for an out of control limbido. Just for stress. My shrink never told the side effects of Celexa would be a low limbido. No wonder I haven't been really horny since being on the stuff. I thought there was something wrong with me for not getting boners over things that would normally give me boners.
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I have been on Depo-Provera for 6 months now & couldn't be happier. As far as bone density is concerned, I am lucky that my water has a high level of calcium in it.

Re: The drugs you are taking, SplitDick. Remember the possible threat of drug interactions. Your doctor just might be happy to have a willing lab rat on his hands. Today, medicine is nothing more than statistics-gathering, since there is nothing much they can actually cure.
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