Did I really managed to castrate myself?

[mrt (imported)]

I would suggest you Google hormone saliva tests. The cost for a simple Total Testosterone test is minimal. You can then have your question answered once and for all. I think adrenal glands can produce around 40 ng/dl? Or some number like that. If you have labs down there whatever you did worked. If it closer to 350+? Nothing happened. I would NOT repeat any do it yourself stuff btw. Your health is more important then finding the off switch for your sex drive.

I'm not trying to be rude but I think asking us is kind of pointless. Other then one Medical student (that I know of) most of us are either "patients" or interested by standers and no one would diagnose anything over the internet.

Can I ask - why you ask?

MrT

Good point, Mr.T. One reason for not getting labs done is the cost since I do not have insurance.

One thing that I have noticed is that I have much less energy. Tasks seem to take longer and I get tired very easily. All this is consistent with low T.

As for it being psychosomatic, I think that is a possibility, but doubt it is actuality.

I forgot to mention that I had some strong hot flashes right after the initial crunch session. These were a bit bothersome at the time, but they seem to have subsided to the point where I don't perceive them anymore. this was one reason why I began to wonder myself if I had been unsucessful.

The bottom line is that I do seem to have most of the symptoms of low T, and my libido has dropped dramatically - which was the main reason for castrating myself in the first place. So regardless of what a few folks think, I'm quite satisfied with the "results" so far.

[Kangan (imported)]

I would suggest you Google hormone saliva tests. The cost for a simple Total Testosterone test is minimal. You can then have your question answered once and for all. I think adrenal glands can produce around 40 ng/dl? Or some number like that. If you have labs down there whatever you did worked. If it closer to 350+? Nothing happened. I would NOT repeat any do it yourself stuff btw. Your health is more important then finding the off switch for your sex drive.

I'm not trying to be rude but I think asking us is kind of pointless. Other then one Medical student (that I know of) most of us are either "patients" or interested by standers and no one would diagnose anything over the internet.

Can I ask - why you ask?

MrT

Why do I ask? I guess partly because I don't really know if it worked or not. Partly because some others have hinted that I'm just making it all up. I tried to castrate myself in a scientific manner - one part of the scientific process is peer reveiw. Which is another reason why I asked for comments from fellow eunuchs! I do plan on getting my T level verified. I have decided to make an appointment at the local urologist and complain of low energy and "male" problems and see what they say.... I am concerned about them detecting the DIY aspect of my condition, however.

When I was a teenager, my T was very high (they didn't tell me the number) and one possibility was testicular cancer, which after a very embarrassing physical, was ruled out. However, I suspect that I may have a high level of adrenal T as I still have some libido left despite the apparent loss of testicular T.

[mrt (imported)]

Why do I ask? I guess partly because I don't really know if it worked or not. Partly because some others have hinted that I'm just making it all up. I tried to castrate myself in a scientific manner - one part of the scientific process is peer reveiw. Which is another reason why I asked for comments from fellow eunuchs! I do plan on getting my T level verified. I have decided to make an appointment at the local urologist and complain of low energy and "male" problems and see what they say.... I am concerned about them detecting the DIY aspect of my condition, however.

When I was a teenager, my T was very high (they didn't tell me the number) and one possibility was testicular cancer, which after a very embarrassing physical, was ruled out. However, I suspect that I may have a high level of adrenal T as I still have some libido left despite the apparent loss of testicular T.

I hope I'm not one that you think is doubting it. Don't get me wrong. I frankly don't care one way or the other. Science is (I think) when you can make a change and measure the results. If you can't measure the results then its "art" Asking others if it worked in this way is not a peer review it just doesn't make any sense. How in the heck would anyone know? We can guess or give an opinion but thats not the way science works.

Medicine is called an "art" because there is so much to the human body its not as easy as A=B x C but "castration" is one of the few things that is easy to measure. I know your not cash heavy and may not wish to involve a doctor but you could get a hormone panel done with saliva (mail order) and expect to get fairly accurate results. If your total T is 100 or under I would say what you did worked. If you want a guess my guess is it didn't work. If my Testosterone was under 100 ng/dL I would not have ANY sex drive. I hardly had any at more then twice that.

Most cases that I've heard or read about using crushing techniques seem to do a good job of damaging testicles and reducing output but few castrate themselves. Human spermatic cords are not as "crunchy" as animal cords I guess? There was a video of this guy who couldn't pronounce Eunuch calling people to say he castrated himself with that animal clamp thing and then when he got his labs found out he hadn't done anything *as one example.

[Kangan (imported)]

I hope I'm not one that you think is doubting it. Don't get me wrong. I frankly don't care one way or the other. Science is (I think) when you can make a change and measure the results. If you can't measure the results then its "art" Asking others if it worked in this way is not a peer review it just doesn't make any sense. How in the heck would anyone know? We can guess or give an opinion but thats not the way science works.

Medicine is called an "art" because there is so much to the human body its not as easy as A=B x C but "castration" is one of the few things that is easy to measure. I know your not cash heavy and may not wish to involve a doctor but you could get a hormone panel done with saliva (mail order) and expect to get fairly accurate results. If your total T is 100 or under I would say what you did worked. If you want a guess my guess is it didn't work. If my Testosterone was under 100 ng/dL I would not have ANY sex drive. I hardly had any at more then twice that.

Most cases that I've heard or read about using crushing techniques seem to do a good job of damaging testicles and reducing output but few castrate themselves. Human spermatic cords are not as "crunchy" as animal cords I guess? There was a video of this guy who couldn't pronounce Eunuch calling people to say he castrated himself with that animal clamp thing and then when he got his labs found out he hadn't done anything *as one example.

Interesting. If medicine is an "art" then I sure am going about this the wrong way!:D

As for crunchy cords, without a vas deferens in the way, there really was no crunch -- more of a squish. And my testicles shrank and got really firm almost immediately. But you may be right about it not working 100% since the body can and does heal itself.

I do thank you for your input. Despite your lack of medical expertise, it was your outsider viewpoint that I wanted. One tends to get caught up in oneself and hence the idea of a "peer" review came to mind. You certainly have managed to spur me into seeking a T level check.

As near as I can tell, I've suffered from having too much T most of my life. The apparent lowering of my T level has definitely made a change in my life. If my experiment has failed, then I do have the option of repeating it, as some Burdizzo users have done....:-\ Not that I really want to repeat the crunch... which means that my castration fantasy has faded -- so maybe it worked anyway??;)

In any event - I'll keep everyone posted as to what comes next.

[kennath7 (imported)]

wow are you doing now

[Kangan (imported)]

wow are you doing now

Just fine.

Libido is behaving nicely, although I have a few days when it asserts itself briefly. I may not be a total eunuch, but "something" did happen to my T level. Gotta get to the doctor... and learn the rest of the story.... (my apologies to Paul Harvey)

[mrt (imported)]

Interesting

. You certainly have managed to spur me into seeking a T level check.

I'm sure there are many other places to do this but here is one link.

http://www.johnleemd.com/store/prod_stest.html

If all you want is Testosterone its $30 which seems very reasonable to me. Hope you get the answer you want. If not maybe consider talking to a surgeon instead of Do It Yourself. I would hate to loose you from blood poisoning or whatever.

[SplitDik (imported)]

I'm generally pretty skeptical of any safe "one minute" castration technique. I've done pretty much everything to my balls and they're still going strong.

However, I think the one difference possibly here is that the right clamp might make the difference. The burdizzo is designed to actually sever the blood supply with the clamping part just an attempt to reduce bleeding -- but it is much too dangerous and painful (it pinches a lot of skin) to recommend. Elastrators and other things probably don't give enough pressure to cause permanent crushing, although if you could possibly withstand the pain for 24 hours then you could achieve castration fairly certainly.. But if you could use the right clamp that provides a lot of pressure on the blood supply without actually severing it, then perhaps it would work with minimum pain and maximum safety.

As others have said, test results are only way to know. There are all sorts of natural cycles and psychosomatic results that get in the way of self assessment.

But I think there is a possibility that you achieved the result as simply as you said.

[Kangan (imported)]

I'm generally pretty skeptical of any safe "one minute" castration technique. I've done pretty much everything to my balls and they're still going strong.

However, I think the one difference possibly here is that the right clamp might make the difference. The burdizzo is designed to actually sever the blood supply with the clamping part just an attempt to reduce bleeding -- but it is much too dangerous and painful (it pinches a lot of skin) to recommend. Elastrators and other things probably don't give enough pressure to cause permanent crushing, although if you could possibly withstand the pain for 24 hours then you could achieve castration fairly certainly.. But if you could use the right clamp that provides a lot of pressure on the blood supply without actually severing it, then perhaps it would work with minimum pain and maximum safety.

As others have said, test results are only way to know. There are all sorts of natural cycles and psychosomatic results that get in the way of self assessment.

But I think there is a possibility that you achieved the result as simply as you said.

As of this writing, I still have not had a T test. However, my goal was to crush the blood vessels over a large area (1 cm square) so as to make recovery difficult. It does seem to have worked. The effects - ball shrinkage, etc. - seem to be permanent. Also from time to time, I have some minor pain in the cords which would indicate damage remains. In contrast, my testicles do not feel pain when squeezed.

I ruled out the use of the Burdizzo because of the major trauma it causes. Banding caused major pain and so I could not maintain a long enough interruption to the blood supply. Crushing a wide area of the blood vessels did produce a lasting blockage of the blood circulation and hence testicular damage of a permanent nature without intense pain. You can't crush the vas deferens this way, so a prior vasectomy is a must.

The vasectomy procedure was a great way to experience the thrill of a surgical castration, and much more easily accomplished.

I still want to have my testicles removed surgically, however.

[Kangan (imported)]

Here is a current update (please bear with me as some of this is a repeat of an earlier posting):

In August of 2007, I castrated myself with a flat-faced wood working clamp applied for one minute to each cord. Since I already had a vasectomy, there was no vas deferens to get in the way of the clamp. Thus it was very easy to crush the blood vessels without damaging the scrotum. There was very little pain involved - mostly just an unpleasant squeezing sensation.

I am still amazed at how easy the whole thing was to accomplish.

Here is what I have noticed, some 11

-months later:

1. My testicles are

diminished in size, very firm to the touch, and (mostly)

lack sensation.

2. My libido is seriously diminshed,

although I still have some sexual fantasies.

3. My wife says that I am much more ornery than before.

4. My prostate has diminished in size and I can pee properly now. (Confirmed by a doctor.)

5. I

involuntary erections rarely occur. Voluntary erections are still possible.

6. When I have an orgasm, there is almost no semen - only a few drops.

7. I think that my physical strength has decreased, but then I was never very muscular anyway.

8. Hot flashes occur at times, but aren't especially bothersome.

And this is the most important change:

9. My penis is about 1-inch shorter than it was!

Comments? Questions?