julialily (imported) wrote: Wed Feb 27, 2008 7:12 am
There's no denying that bisexuality has been a bit of a fashion statement in recent years. Let's face it, if you never go out with anyone of the same gender it won't really be questioned. But don't genuine bisexuals deserve a bit more respect than tags like
Let's remember that the rainbow flag is supposed to be a symbol of diversity, we're not all gay and straight. If I went into my local gay club there would be a few dirty looks as I'm currently going out with someone of the opposite gender. Obviously, it's some sort of statement. It couldn't just be that I swing both
FianceeUvBigGuy (imported) wrote: Sat Mar 01, 2008 12:30 pm
Tasting; price depends on how good you are at it.
For me to touch YOU "down there"; 5000.00(US), if you have ballsies.
If you don't, No charge and you get soup and a sandwich.
Man, I almost think I'd actually like to get down there and be the bottom slice for a sandwich sometime or else just to be a part of a great soup mix. Gotta get down to San Antonio. Gotta get back down to San Antone...
The irony is that most people are probably bisexual. But they feel a need for intellectual clarity and simplicity, so they try to push everyone into a convenient category.
julialily (imported) wrote: Wed Feb 27, 2008 7:12 am
There's no denying that bisexuality has been a bit of a fashion statement in recent years. Let's face it, if you never go out with anyone of the same gender it won't really be questioned. But don't genuine bisex
Let's remember that the rainbow flag is supposed to be a symbol of diversity, we're not all gay and straight. If I went into my local gay club there would be a few dirty looks as I'm currently going out with someone of the opposite gender. Obviously, it's some sort of statement. It couldn't just be that I swing both
ways.
Actually, the flag was originally a "gay" lib flag when first used. It has since been willingly co-opted out to include a wider base, and welcome. I think you are right in that "bi" is frequently a fashion term rather than reality. Checking the numbers here, about 80% in the past year here have described themselves as bi - something I am skeptical of... Experiments in the past couple of years have generally disproven most such claims based upon individual, measured, usually visceral, reactions.... When someone tells me that they are bi, I generally assume there is a 90% chance they are full of crap. I just watch who they watch... usually a give away
kristoff wrote: Sun May 24, 2009 1:56 pm
I just watch who they watch... usually a give away
I would greatly agree with that. I am still on the fence over my own sexuality, I do find men sexually attractive but I have never fooled around with one. My gay best friend, is constantly dropping hints that he knows, which I think is because he is watching who I watch.
I feel that this fact is far to present in our society, and it sucks:
And, at the bottom of the totem pole
coinflipper_21 (imported) wrote: Wed Feb 27, 2008 10:49 am
are bisexual men. Women don't trust them because they feel, at best, a bisexual man is an orgasmic opportunist, and at worst, gay, but won't admit it. To a straight man, a bisexual is really gay. Gay men don't trust bisexual men because they feel, at best, a bisexual man is gay, but won't admit it, and at worst, an orgasmic opportunist.
julialily (imported) wrote: Wed Feb 27, 2008 7:12 am
While most people are more open minded nowadays, bisexuals can still come under fire from both gay and straight people.
There's no denying that bisexuality has been a bit of a fashion statement in recent years. Let's face it, if you never go out with anyone of the same gender it won't really be questioned. But don't genuine bisexuals deserve a bit more respect than tags like
Let's remember that the rainbow flag is supposed to be a symbol of diversity, we're not all gay and straight. If I went into my local gay club there would be a few dirty looks as I'm currently going out with someone of the opposite gender. Obviously, it's some sort of statement. It couldn't just be that I swing both ways.
There's a great deal of sexual and sexuality politics. For example, I've seen bi girls insisting they are gay and find men repulsive when they're going out with a girl. It seems some sections of the gay community are far happier to accept properly gay people that bisexuals. While I don't want to tar every gay person with the same brush, there are a number of people that think if you're bisexual you've just not decided yet.
Superficially, some would say bisexual people have it easier than gay people as they have the option of living a straight life. As if your sexuality is a lifestyle choice. It seems bizarre that a community that is generally so accepting still holds some prejudice. Why should I feel I have to apologies for not being fully gay?
Thankfully, many people are open minded and happy to accept you for who you are. Not every gay person is militant and believes you're letting the side down by going out with someone of the opposite gender. And many people acknowledge that sexuality can be fluid. A gay person may be attracted to someone of the opposite gender in the same way a straight person could find a spark with one particular person of the same sex. We are not just our sexuality, so let's start being inclusive and stop creating barriers.
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Actually, from my experience I've found that society in general frowns more on gay/bi guys than lesbian/bi girls. A large majority of guys go nuts when they see two girls kiss, but the instant that the subject of guys kissing comes up it becomes "wrong." Being gay myself, I have no problem with bisexual or straight people. In fact, I dislike the labels entirely. Date who you fall in love with and the rest of society be damned. There is more than enough hate going around in the world today that I think a little more honest true love couldn't hurt.
Chris1115, there's a lot of truth in what you say. Love is a scarce commodity. That's why it's talked about so much, and why there are so many songs, movies, books, etc., about it. If love were common and easy to get, like air or water, there'd be no passionate ballads about it.
Most people, if they're lucky, experience unconditional selfless love with their mothers when they're small children. Then, they spend the rest of their lives longing to recover that love with strangers. I never hear this discussed, but it seems to me that much of popular culture is about a wish to be children again. That applies not only to love, but to the idea of a "welfare state," where one would be cared for and protected just as one was as a child. It's all good if you can get it, but so far, the only person who's ever loved me unconditionally and wanted to care for and protect me is my mother. Maybe I'm doing something wrong, but I think that's the norm. Ultimately, you have to give to get. Being cute isn't enough, except for a brief fling.
So back to love and sex - I suppose I "look at" more women than men, yet the two people I really loved and for whom I felt overwhelming passion, physical and emotional, were both men. I'd have joyfully given everything up to marry either of them, had they been willing, and had it been possible. That seems to me to be true bisexuality. My genes may point me toward women, but my mature loves have been men.
It's a mistake to layer ideology over sexuality. Human nature will always be more complex than the categories we try to build for it.
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