Chemical Burns / HRT patches?

[Paolo]

Anyone ever heard of anything like this happening? A personal allergic reaction, maybe? This from someone on another list...

Not sure where they were manufactured but to my knowledge Androderm is the most Rx'd brand of T-patches. I contacted the company and they had me send them back for examination but could not discover any reason for the burn I received. It actually happed three different times but the last was so severe I eneded up in the ER for treatment and in great pain. Haven't used them since and that happened in mid-October.

[DonFL (imported)]

sounds like you've developed an allergy. Patch users often start developing contact dermatitis but in your case it seems severe, it could also be the adhesive or ester they are using to deliver. I would get a sample of androgel or teststim before buying an entire RX only to find our your now sensitive to it too, same with any alternative brand of patch you might want to try.

As far as dermal patches go, i can only find Androderm, Testoderm, & Testoderm TTS are on the market, there may be generic copies. The latter may not be in the states because BCBS dose not list them on the formulary, even as not-covered.

[ramses (imported)]

I have the same reaction to stri-strips and some self adhesive bandages. They leave a wound that is like an acid burn that is VERY painful. So I would suspect the the persons reaction is to the adhesive on the patch.

[tugon (imported)]

I to would suspect the adhesive that holds the patch in place. It is possible to become alergic to most anything but I saw a lot of adhesive allergies in my healthcare days. Always position the patch on a different area of skin. Paper tape was less irritating to the skin and you could try a border of paper tape on the skin the size of the patches adhesive area. Then stick the patch adhesive edge on the paper tape and the medicine area on the skin.

Although I think a hospital would recognize an adhesive allergy. Latex allergy is another thing that happens for some folks and I wonder from what material the base of the patch is made?

[sduyck_2000 (imported)]

do you have an allergy to soybeans

I read that the andro products are soy based and can cause allergy.

never use patches just gel

i am surprised they still make patches

when they first started...it was patches applied to scrotum

It was discovered that this caused too much t to get converted to dht a bad hormone that causes bad things in the prostate and hair to fall out.

applying the gel to the shoulders it all gets absorbed and used as t not converted by the scrotum to dht

read that on a search of androgel...wondered why it was not applied to the scrotum anymore other than it burns like hell if it is applied there.

[iBorg317 (imported)]

I had the same thing happen with Androgel. I had been using it for about five years. Then I started having what looked like a chemical burn. Changed to the patch. That lasted for about five weeks. Now I'm doing injections.

While I'm allergic to a bunch of things, I don't think I am to soybeans.

Mike

[DonFL (imported)]

do you have an allergy to soybeans

It was discovered that this caused too much t to get converted to dht a bad hormone that causes bad things in the prostate and hair to fall out.

applying the gel to the shoulders it all gets absorbed and used as t not converted by the scrotum to dht

As far as DHT conversion goes, all dermals have a higher DHT conversion rate than injections. While the exact mechanism is unknown, but its thought to be similar to aromatase. The scrotum is special skin, it absorbs much faster than normal skin, example EMLA will totally numb the scrotal skin in 5-10 min vs 30min to 1 hour for normal skin. This is why scrotal patches have an even higher rate of DHT conversion than normal skin patches and gels.

If your DHT ranges go above 90 it is recommended a light dose (half to full milligram) of finasteride be taken daily in whatever at whatever level suppresses it enough to bring you into a normal, but not DHT castrate, level.

Alternative is switching to shots, which eventually, most of us do with a few exceptions that they are not effective for, usually because the persons prostate has been atrophied so much that DHT conversion from blood stream T is low.

[DonFL (imported)]

I had the same thing happen with Androgel. I had been using it for about five years. Then I started having what looked like a chemical burn. Changed to the patch. That lasted for about five weeks. Now I'm doing injections.

While I'm allergic to a bunch of things, I don't think I am to soybeans.

Mike

androgel did the same to me but within weeks, i think its the high ethanol content in the gel that does it, drys the skin and strips the protective oils from the dermal layer..

[gpb3aol (imported)]

Androgel when I took it gave me a rash on my chest.

Pauline

[Uncle Flo (imported)]

I've had phenomenal luck with Androgel. I like that I can vary the dose to suit me. I was a little alarmed when I first started it by reading the "don't set yourself on fire" warnings in the product literature (don't smoke-high alcohol content). --FLO--