Chem-Cast

[madscientist (imported)]

Do your testis still function? What you tell me sounds like "ball pumping". I understand that guys can make them really large that way.

[madscientist (imported)]

I have researched Chem-Cast more, and the company that made it removed it from the FDA approval process. I am not sure why.

I agree that lactic acid is reasonably well available. Specifically, Chem-Cast used "DL-lactic acid". However, I think it is important to know the concentration of acid used, which is impossible since the company wouldn't publish that (probably a trade secret).

Apparently a 9% solution of DL-lactic acis is quite acidic (pH of 2.9) so I don't think you'd want to use a solution an more concentrated than that.

My biggest hope for permanent chemical castration is the drug being developed by Gonex. See www.gonex.com

How do you know that Chem-Cast is lactic acid? According to my research the trademark, submitted by Philips Roxane, is dead. Does anyone know the formula?

[SplitDick (imported)]

This link lists DL-lactic acid as the active ingredient of Chem Cast:

http://www.penpages.psu.edu/penpages_re ... 80186.HTML

I have also seen it mentioned elsewhere. None of the sites give an actual formula or concentration, because it is a trade secret.

[JesusA (imported)]

Philips Roxane seems to have merged into the Belgian chemical and pharmeceutical company Solvay, which is also the maker of Andro Gel (topical testosterone cream) and Estratab (for treatment of osteoporosis). They seem to have dropped all veterinary products soon after the merger. I’ll try to find out more to post later.

[madscientist (imported)]

According to FDA rules all hormones that are given to food animals must exit the body before slaughter. It is possible that Chem-Cast remains in the testis forever. If that is the case then the testis would have to be removed before slaughter, in which case using Chem-Cast would be pointless in order to avoid surgery.

Since Chem-Cast is no longer a trademark I would assume that its formula would be public, though I wouldn't know where to find it. Any takers?

[SplitDick (imported)]

Just because a product was taken off the market does not mean a company will reveal the trade secret of how it was made.

[inphx (imported)]

lactic acid (chem-cast) is not really a homone but a common body constituent and is subject to metabolism. i have yet to see a report on how it functions in the manner being considered here. perhaps we need literature not accessible by the net.

[spadone (imported)]

I went over to their web page yesterday.

They actually have an effective product that would most likely work. Rather than targeting the testicles (which is hard for an injection to do), it targets specific receptors in the pituitary gland in the brain, that is responsible for secretion of the hormone that causes the testis to make testosterone.

There is little difference between the animal and human products, since the peptide/protein sequence is almost the same.

I wonder how long it would take someone (once it is released) to wreak havoc with this by giving unsuspecting people injections of this peptide that completely shuts down testosterone....

Just a thought.

Spadone.

[Xan (imported)]

http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Pars ... nimal+AND+"

[colin (imported)]

Mad Scientist,

Trademarks and Formulae are different things. You can register a trademark without having a product behind it. However, most products are patented and patents are usually sought in all major countries, so I would suggest a search of the US Patent Office. It might not be under the name of 'Chem-Cast' but should be listed under the name of the company.

Incidentally, I believe that trademarks are eternal. Even if the original company no longer uses the brand name it does not mean that any one else can use it unless they come to an agreement with the owners. In that, it is different to patents which lapse are a specific number of years.

LOL