Update 4 months on

[cogman (imported)]

Hi there, I have not posted for a while, I have been flat out leading up to chrissy, but now I have a bit of a respite.

I have continued off and on with androcur but I had started on some finasteride mixed with it. I ended up taking just 12.5mg of adrocure and about 1mg of finasteride per day.

I found that prolonged use (6 weeks) of just this small amount in combination of both drugs had some very powerful results. I found that the combination of both had more effect that taking twice the amount of adrocur in a lead up to this regime.

I found that my testes definitely became smaller, much more difficult to get hard and absolutely no ejaculate, as in completely dry, I also found that orgasm intensity/pleasure dropped off to the point that it was hardly worth doing. I ended up cutting the adrocur out because of this, it was scary not getting any pleasure/much feeling from orgasm, I can imagine continuing this for another few weeks would have ended up shuting things down completely, and not only would I not want sex but I would not be able to perform either. Not healthy in a married relationship even if she probably would not mind....but for people who want to do this then this combination seems to be a good way to get there...but the time frame is months not weeks, so you do have to be patient.

As far as my sex drive is concerned I have found that although I didn't get as angry about my wife not putting out as much, I found that instead of anger I tended towards being depressed about it, which meant that instead of being more independent of her in terms of intimacy I think I actually became more needy. In some respects its easier just getting angry about it, but probably more destructive. I do not want to consider taking anti depressants though as a result of this, that is crossing the line for me.

A combination of the two do seem to have good hair regrowth results though on a positive note.

My wife and I have just began another chastity phase which means I can accurately ascertain if my body is producing testestorone again because the cage wakes me up with night time erections. After a good two weeks off adrocure (but maintaining the finasteride) I woke a few times with the cage feeling very tight but not full blown erection. I also found when I had a day of freedom recently that it appears that having a few weeks break from androcur my sexual function and feeling returned to normal and I took full advantage of my 18 hours of freedom managing about 7 orgasms...yep...7

Following a few days of cage tightness though I started taking 12.5 mg of adrocure per day, in 4 days with just this small amount the morning erections have gone again, so I intend to cease again till they come back.

My intention is to see if I can find a balance, but I am becoming convinced that there is no half way house with libido, its either there or its gone. I have never managed to make it gone (but I did reduce it).

I did find though just taking adrocur by itself gave me a lot more side effect, sore bones, breathlessness, feeling of weakness, even feeling stupid.

I found that taking a combination of both seemed to target my gonads more directly leaving my body feeling more normal. It seemed to shut down things a lot more rapidly, but again my objective is not to shut myself down, but to find a half way point.

Androcure does seem to have a greater impact on desire but i am not sure if its just because it makes one feel tired and feel like shit, whereas a combination of both seems to impact feeling/performance/function.

I am fairly certain that eventually loss of libido would follow complete loss of function/feeling which might be better for some people who has this objective in mind, but becoming depressed about this prior to loss of libido could be a real danger. I am becoming convinced that your can't have your chicken (loss of libido) before the egg (loss of function/feeling) or do they occur even nearly at the same time and traveling that path between is where the danger of depression lies.

Obviously taking less androcur allows there to be still some testosterone floating around your body, and normal testosterone is the hormone that binds to muscle tissue which explains why one feels more normal with less androcur, finasteride is for the DHT which apparently impacts the gonads more, yet finasteride by itself does not seem to impact sexual function which IS interesting .

[Danya (imported)]

I've been on Androcur, 100 mg/day, over 9 weeks now. Occassionally I've increased to 150mg/day because I wasn't sure it was working! At least not as much as I wanted.

I, too, have the breathlessness side effect (which I don't like - I feel like I'm about to have a coronary) and feelings of weakness. If I exercise, though, those effects disappear for a day or two. Haven't had any problems with bone soreness or feeling stupid, although I think I get what you're saying there. If I don't exercise my low energy makes it seem like I'm thinking less rapidly and perhaps that's even true.