erythropoietin - EPO

[kietboy (imported)]

BTW, other forms of testosterone do not raise RBC as much as the Enanthate you are using. Plus, Enanthate really sucks as HRT. Have you ever experimented with other forms of testosterone yet? I have used Enanthate before, and even at VERY high doses, the "feeling" of testosterone was very minimum. Men I know, who have had testicular cancer, and have used everything there is for HRT, all of them report Enanthate to be the lousiest choice. But so many doctors don't know any better. I even heard of one doctor who put a man on Halotestin for HRT. Or the doctor who thinks it only takes one shot a month of Cypionate. LOL

Hi,

well it's been 12 years now that i use it and it feels ok, never felt like i should try another way. i take 75mg once a week i.m. At first when we start the HRT i had one shot a month damn that was hell... a roller coaster in mood and low T effects but now it's stable.

My new endocrinologist offered me to switch to androgel I told him that i rather stay with something we know that works maybe one day I'll change but i don't see why since it works for me

[mrt (imported)]

Hi,

well it's been 12 years now that i use it and it feels ok, never felt like i should try another way. i take 75mg once a week i.m. At first when we start the HRT i had one shot a month damn that was hell... a roller coaster in mood and low T effects but now it's stable.

My new endocrinologist offered me to switch to androgel I told him that i rather stay with something we know that works maybe one day I'll change but i don't see why since it works for me

I used Androgel and it worked very well. The nice thing about it is that it mimics the typical male "cycle" of 24 hours. However I'm also quite pleased with Test Cyp and weekly injections make the most sense from the research I've read. Monthly looks on paper like a very very bad idea.

[Uncle Flo (imported)]

I have used Androgel. I liked it much better than injections. Being able to apply it myself was a big plus. --FLO--

[erikboy (imported)]

Depo Testosterone increases hemoglobin and red blood cell counts in all males. The degree to which has a lot to do with age, health, bone marrow activity (age again), exercise, diet, vitamins, (stay away from all IRON supplements). Higher RBC counts increase the RISK of blood clots.

It is known that increase of T levels will increase EPO levels. Which again will increase physical endurance. Therefore decrase of T levels should decrease EPO levels and decrease one's physical endurance. Thus it should be possible for eunuchs to return RBC to precastration level via EPO.

It seem like it is very little known what processes T causes in the body. What other processes are activated by T directly and what processesses are stimulated indirectly. - Like endurance is regulated via EPO.

Loss of energy is and willpower is often associated with age not with decrease of T levels or other hormones or substances that are related to T.

If it is known it could be possible to fight energy loss and other undesirable effects of castration.

[Crownjewels (imported)]

Hi!

I am not a doctor, but perhaps somebody could comment this.

Eunuchs suffer from stamina, strenght, energy and muscle mass loss.

There is a hormone called erythropoietin or EPO, which is well known and forbidden doping substance.

It generally increases the red blood cell production and it is believed that general tissue oxygenation regulates amount of EPO produced in the body.

The rising erythropoietin levels increase both skeletal muscle mass and also increase hemoglobin production.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erythropoietin

It is less known that testosterone levels affect EPO production as well. A hemoglobin level of 12.0 would be normal for prepubertal boy while 18.0 or more is normal for adult.

thus using EPO on eunuchs could help to fight fatigue, energy and muscle loss.

I have bumped this thread by erikboy because the subject erythropoietin output was raised.

As a no TRT eunuch, I have been advised to be watchful for anemia caused by the lack of output of the hormone erythropoietin, which is caused by testosterone deficiency and consequent red blood cell mass decline.

Does anyone have any knowledge they can share on this subject and which medications and/or vitamins (preferably) can counter this effect. The vitamin Echinacea seems to crop up frequently whenever I search the subject on the web but I am aware that many companys selling herbal remedies make such claims.

[erikboy (imported)]

Try to use EPO that forces your body to produce red bloodcells would be a incompetent answer. I don't know how body regulates EPO productions, and what are the dangers of taking supplemental EPO.