Who are the doctors, again?

[devi (imported)]

I had absolutely no luck at all with being able to get in contact with any surgeons in Mexico who would perform an orchiectomy. I made many inquiries but not one of my inquiries were ever replied to (in Spanish or English).

[mrt (imported)]

I think the psychologic assessment is largely ass-covering by the doctors in case the candidate has some later change of heart about whether he really wanted it. It is a legal defense not good medicine. If the "independant" assessment indicates that the desire is genuine and the doctor goes ahead, he is covered no matter how crazy the candidate really is.

In days gone by I think things were a lot looser and not a lot of such analyses were done. I have never heard of any voluntary castratee coming over the hill and actually filing suit which would have happened if there had been genuine issues of concern, even in those more liberal days (pre WWII).

There always have been the occasional case where the victim wasn't given a choice, mental institutions etc, but often nothing was done about it other than to say how deplorable it was. It was also often part of the lynchings that went on in the deep South likewise generally left unpunished. Makes you wonder how voluntary castration became a crime.

Agreed - If you press your surgeon he/she will probably admit that have a mental health pre screening is about legal issues and lawsuits. Doctors are still doing "work" for a living. And if a contractor building a house has to have insurance you can be a Doctor does for exactly the same reason. The difference is that a person working with a doctor may sue because they are irrational. And a Doctor is supposed to know this and avoid giving them treatment that is not life and death if it impacts them. And infertility, and a lifetime of HRT clearly does.

The deal is that more and more "cosmetic" procedures come with this requirement that a person be "Sanity Checked" before the surgeon makes the first incision.

I guess I'm kind of flopping around in the middle. I clearly "get" the GID folks. Those that want (need) surgery to be reassigned? I'm all for it. I also get the "Medical" folks. Those (like me) with Orchialgia or even those with serious atrophy where the male bits are broke and causing trouble anyway. For those of you who are mad that you can't get Male to Eunuch Surgery on demand imagine how POed it can be to be turned down for chronic pain and atrophy. I am with plix 100% about young men. Yes, your sex drives are high but having a Bilateral to "cure" this? Just say no! The folks in sexless Marriages? My current feeling is really mixed but I am leaning on the try harder to increase your wife's sex drive rather then kill your own.

Who else thinks that our medical professionals fail to see any shades of grey in this? I honestly think some (many?) see no difference from a Fetish Castration and one for GID issues.

[mrt (imported)]

I had absolutely no luck at all with being able to get in contact with any surgeons in Mexico who would perform an orchiectomy. I made many inquiries but not one of my inquiries were ever replied to (in Spanish or English).

Search "Medical Tourism" and be willing to go to India.

[mrt (imported)]

Saw this link on Dr Reed's site (Florida) It looks like he is open to doing anyone as long as they pass a sanity check. I'm still very torn on that subject. I think my own personal "grudge" is that folks looking for a "Fetish" thrill (And no, I don't get it) are freaking out surgeons so that when a man even hints at needing this the surgeon assumes the worst.

I dunno. Very complicated I suppose.

*** From Dr Reed's web page * * *

Orchiectomy Procedure

The Orchiectomy Procedure is an independent procedure that can be performed for those who wish to eliminate testosterone surge and achieve some degree of secondary feminization without complete penectomy and vaginoplasty.

As this is an irreversible procedure, 2 letters of therapy clearance are required. One therapist (psychologist, psychiatrist, social worker, sexologist) must have a doctoral degree, and one of the two therapists must know the patient for an extended period of time. Conceivably one of the two therapists can satisfy the requirements for a doctoral degree and knowing the patient for an extended period of time. Consideration may be given to sperm banking prior to orchiectomy.

Pre-op lab is also required. Fee to include orchiectomy, local anesthesia with IV sedation, and followup care as provided by the Reed Centre.

[madmax (imported)]

hey are you all in the us as i am in the uk who are the doctors i the uk and i have asked my girlfriend to do itshe has agreed but is scared about the bleeding etc and what are the legal points for example if i change my mind would she get in trouble

[BossTamsin (imported)]

Yes, she would.

If you wind up in the hospital, she winds up in jail.

If she can't stop the bleeding (as is likely), she winds up in jail.

If anything goes wrong, she winds up in jail.

[sapient (imported)]

She might very well end up in jail even if nothing goes particularly wrong.

Okay, I'm not a lawyer - and certainly not a British lawyer - but as far as I know, an attorney in UK can proced on charges of assault with a knife (what the law would see it as). And UK certainly have even stricter standards about inflicting bodily harm then e.g. Sweden - the UK law says you are culpable if you leave a mark on the skin (a big bruise is enough). There's no leniency if it was made during consensual sex (see the Spanner case).

All it takes is any police or attorney getting to know about it, even years down the road.

It's not a good idea to involve anyone at all.

(Well, it's not a good idea to do it yourself either. But the standard for what is a good idea and what isn't doesn't necessarily influence that decision... And I feel I'm in no position to judge such an act right now.)

[madmax (imported)]

i was talking to her this probabaly wouldnt work either but what do you think if i wrote a letter before hand stating that i had asked her to do it . i would only ask her because i know she is one of the only ppl i know who might have the stomach to actualy go through with it.do any of you know of any english sites as am struggling to find one that is little more than a gossip page

i feel like an idiot i wish i had some pearl of knowlage to share with you all in return thanks guys

[BossTamsin (imported)]

If it's a crime, it's a crime. Consent is not a factor. If it were, no drug dealers would get prosecuted, as they'd just have everyone they sold to sign a waiver saying the dealer couldn't be held responsible, it was their choice, etc. Just look at the reports we've had of cutters being busted. All their "victims" gave full consent, but that didn't matter. Considering what little I've heard about British law, particularly in regards to BDSM play, I can't imagine a castration going over at all well. All the letter may do is prove premeditation.

As for English sites, well, we're pretty much world-wide here, with a great sampling from all over. We even had this strange English guy (bloke?) come to the most recent meeting. Heheheheh.

[madmax (imported)]

this sucks we are supposed to be a free country are you a full eunuch and how did you do it or how do you plan to do it .? if you dont mind me asking that is ?